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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-04-2009, 03:10 AM Thread Starter
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new battery but won't start...

waz up fellow riders...here's my situation, i was gonna go to a bike nite only to find out that the bike won't start. i tried to charge the battery and after a couple of hours (green) i installed it back.

tried to start it but the only thing i heard was a chirp under my seat. i did a bump start and it worked. as i'm idling, it sounded like it's gasping for air or gas, so i rev it and it went dead instead. tried to start it again but the battery is dead.

bought a new battery and it's the same case. would really appreciate any help. thanks in advance...

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Very similar issue happened to me. Let me know if you figure it out. Good luck.
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a chirp under the seat? maybe the connection or maybe a fuse
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The battery is likely not the problem. If the first one charged, it probably was still fine. In the future, if you have any doubts, take it to an auto part store and they should load test it for free. That will tell you if the battery can take a full charge.

There is nothing under the seat (besides fuses) to my knowledge that will make any noise... I could be wrong though. If I had to guess, it sounds to me like your fuel pump might be going up. If you hear a chirping from "under the seat", it could be the fuel pump attempting to prime and failing.

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Very similar issue happened to me. Let me know if you figure it out. Good luck.
checking all the possible cause. will let you know if i'm able to solve the problem or you let me know if u find it out before i do. thanks for all your replies.

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actually there is also relays under the seat. maybe that is what u heard clicking. as for the battery goes. a couple of hours will not be enough time to fully charge a dead battery. im not so sure i would rule it out just yet. batteries as any other components can be defective right out of the box. however, normally new batteries will require charging. depending on how low the charge is the can take up to 18 hours at a slow charge which is what u should do. i would leave it overnight at least 12 hours. battery voltage alone should be at around 12.6 v. and while cranking it should not drop under 9 volts. also make sure ur using a motorcycle charger or one capable of charging at no more than 2 amps. using a higher amprage can fry ur battery. also some batteries may require u to add tap water if low or when new.
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actually there is also relays under the seat. maybe that is what u heard clicking. as for the battery goes. a couple of hours will not be enough time to fully charge a dead battery. im not so sure i would rule it out just yet. batteries as any other components can be defective right out of the box. however, normally new batteries will require charging. depending on how low the charge is the can take up to 18 hours at a slow charge which is what u should do. i would leave it overnight at least 12 hours. battery voltage alone should be at around 12.6 v. and while cranking it should not drop under 9 volts. also make sure ur using a motorcycle charger or one capable of charging at no more than 2 amps. using a higher amprage can fry ur battery. also some batteries may require u to add tap water if low or when new.
ok, so i charged the battery with a deltran 12v for almost 24 hours. installed it and it fires right up. went around d block for a few minutes then back. tried to start it again but failed. something's draining the battery rather quickly.
i ruled out the battery since it's new and charged.
starter seems fine coz it started with no problem.
check fuses under the seat and on the main fuse box.

i was told it could be stator or perhaps the spark plugs. this is a 2005 600rr and only has 10k miles on it. bought it brand new and never laid it down so i would think spark plugs are ok. it's been more than 2 weeks since my last ride and i'm so itching to ride again. pls help...

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2 things you can try.

First, you need an amp meter. Most multimeters have an amps setting. Unhook the Pos. terminal of the battery and charge it. A few hours might be good enough. Then put the meter on 10A setting. Pos. lead of the meter on the pos. terminal and the neg lead of the meter on the pos wire of the wiring harness. What current do you have? You should have no more than .1 Amps.

Next, charge the battery for like 8 hours. Let it sit for a day. Then hook up the wires and try to start it. Does it start?

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2 things you can try.

First, you need an amp meter. Most multimeters have an amps setting. Unhook the Pos. terminal of the battery and charge it. A few hours might be good enough. Then put the meter on 10A setting. Pos. lead of the meter on the pos. terminal and the neg lead of the meter on the pos wire of the wiring harness. What current do you have? You should have no more than .1 Amps.

Next, charge the battery for like 8 hours. Let it sit for a day. Then hook up the wires and try to start it. Does it start?
i did charged the battery (18+ hours) and it started right up. however, after going around the block then back, it failed to start again. it barely crank up. what's draining the battery quickly.

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It's not necessarily, " What's draining the battery so quickly?"... It's, " Whay is the battery dieing so quickly?" could be the bike zapping it. It could be a bad battery that has enough juice to start it once but not a second time.

If you want the quick way, Go have the battery load tested at an autoparts store. If it checks good, then you have something drawing the power out of the battery. I would make sure that you have a good battery first then start checking out other possibilities.

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