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Had to make a challenging title to get you guys to chim in . Still doubt anyone could troubleshoot this.

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I spent the last 4 days researching on the .net about buzzing noises before making this thread b/c I tried all the solutions. Here are a few facts:

- Sounds like its coming from the front end - the cluster or triple tree

- Buzzing starts immediately upon hitting 5k rpm.

- It sounds like keys hitting the triple tree. Only problem is I only have one key in the ignition, the bike key.

- Its not the windscreen or the tank cover.

- The buzz is there when I rev the bike in idle as well as when Im riding.

- Its NOT temperature related. I always warm up the bike to operating temp before riding but in an attempt to experiment, I rode the bike cold and the noise was still there.

- I thought it would be a CCT but its coming from the front end, not the right side of the bike.

- NO impact on performance.

- When Im in 1st gear and riding at any rpm higher than 5k and let it drop down by itself, at the 5k rpm range I hear it. Its also evident downshifting from 2nd to 1st.

Lots of you may tell me not to worry about it but its driving me crazy and I know bikes make noises but this isnt a normal noise.

I'm tempted to say its the one key in the ignition making noise. I took apart the front and thoroughly inspected everything that could make noise and found nothing.

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You have an after market wind sheild right? that is what is making the buzzing noise.. next time you hear it reach forward and press on the very front of the sheild near the third eye. how do you solve it? look at your stock wind sheild and I bet you see that there is a foam peice glued to the underside.. do the same thing on your aftermarket sheild and I bet the buzzing will go away..

I am supprised you didn't find an answer on .net cause I have answered this question about 6 times

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why are you sure its not the windscreen? Many people have had this problem and thats what it was. If I were you, I would start taking pieces off until the noise went away. Then you know what it is! Start with mirrors, then screen, then fairing, etc. Good luck!
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You have an after market wind sheild right? that is what is making the buzzing noise.. next time you hear it reach forward and press on the very front of the sheild near the third eye. how do you solve it? look at your stock wind sheild and I bet you see that there is a foam peice glued to the underside.. do the same thing on your aftermarket sheild and I bet the buzzing will go away..

I am supprised you didn't find an answer on .net cause I have answered this question about 6 times
I took it for a ride without the windscreen, the noise was still there.

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why are you sure its not the windscreen? Many people have had this problem and thats what it was. If I were you, I would start taking pieces off until the noise went away. Then you know what it is! Start with mirrors, then screen, then fairing, etc. Good luck!
Above response.

The noise is coming from the ignition. It sounds like a bunch of keys are hitting the triple tree but I only have the bike key in the ignition. Its a rattle type noise.

I wouldnt have made the thread without checking the basics like mirrors, bar ends, windscreen etc. Trust me on this.

Like I said, its coming from the triple tree


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here's a vid...camera phone doesnt pick up the sound all that well though. At 0:34 you could hear it better than the other times. I'll try taking a better vid.


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it can be heard from 0:16-0:17 and from 0:23-0:27



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man i dont hear any wired noise going on with the bike in the vids.

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I can hear it. BUt another .net member (Metallica) rode the bike and heard the noise. So its there


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Check for loose nuts and bolts behind the wheel? Like header, radiator, etc? If nothing jumps out at you, you're going to have to take the fairing off until the noise goes away.
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put your hand on the key, there was a fix for the key rattling *goes to find post*


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put your hand on the key, there was a fix for the key rattling *goes to find post*
ah yes I came across that thread, where the guy put little circular stickers on the ignition to keep the the key in place. But I held the key while riding and the rattling "keys hitting the triple tree" noise is still there


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Check for loose nuts and bolts behind the wheel? Like header, radiator, etc? If nothing jumps out at you, you're going to have to take the fairing off until the noise goes away.
I recall dropping two nuts and 1 stud under the seat by the battery some time back. BUT, thats under the seat. This is a triple tree/ignition noise.

I did take all the fairings off too and ziptied everything I could...didnt work

Who thinks its an engine related noise? Everyone uses the term CCT loosely in these situations but I highly doubt that in my situation mainly bc the noise is isolated to the front of the bike.


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ah yes I came across that thread, where the guy put little circular stickers on the ignition to keep the the key in place. But I held the key while riding and the rattling "keys hitting the triple tree" noise is still there
next common one ... the tank cover it self, right above the ECU (where the lil divet is in the top)


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How smoth is the movement when you turn the handle bars? maybe some of your head bearings are warn , so they are loose and rattelling

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Who thinks its an engine related noise? Everyone uses the term CCT loosely in these situations but I highly doubt that in my situation mainly bc the noise is isolated to the front of the bike.
easy way to find out since it does ti at idle...

mechanics stethoscope, or a really big screw driver held to the engine casings.


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next common one ... the tank cover it self, right above the ECU (where the lil divet is in the top)
tried that too. Held it down hard when riding, the indentation on the cover, and the noise is still there. If it went away then yea I would open it up and put foam underneath there as the remedy.


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tried that too. Held it down hard when riding, the indentation on the cover, and the noise is still there. If it went away then yea I would open it up and put foam underneath there as the remedy.
im not sure if its the tank cover it self, or the ecu under it, and the tank is just a good mounting location for the foam *shrug*

try riding with the tank cover off, so you can apply pressure to various exposed parts?


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easy way to find out since it does ti at idle...

mechanics stethoscope, or a really big screw driver held to the engine casings.
really really doubt its an internal problem. It only has 6500 miles and gets a fresh amsoil oil change every 2k miles. Plus its never ridden hard.

If the problem was temperature related then I could see how its an engine problem but when the bike is cold and hot the problem is still there. Also, its coming from the front of the bike. I would imagine an engine noise would come from the right side of the bike.

I think I'll just accept it as normal. Bike pulls amazing otherwise.


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I took the bike for a spin and heard the noise that redlinernyc is talking about. It sounds like it's coming from around the gauge cluster, headlight housing etc. Come to think of it, can it be the internals on the controls (headlight switch, horn switch, clip-on weight etc)? Might sound crazy but the vibration at said RPM might be strong enough to rattle a loose part.

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I took the bike for a spin and heard the noise that redlinernyc is talking about. It sounds like it's coming from around the gauge cluster, headlight housing etc. Come to think of it, can it be the internals on the controls (headlight switch, horn switch, clip-on weight etc)? Might sound crazy but the vibration at said RPM might be strong enough to rattle a loose part.
I took it to Nassau Motorsports on Jericho Turnpike yest. and even they didnt know what it was. The checked it out thoroughly too on the lift. He thought it was the rectifier b/c its pretty loose so he tightened it up with zipties so it wouldnt move but the noise is still there.

I'll accept it as normal I guess


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I remember dropping 2 battery bolts/nuts and a stud under my seat last year while taking out the battery and I never was able to get them out. My question is how far up front would they be able to travel? Anywhere near the triple tree?

Not my pic (its Botoxboy pic) but it shows where the parts fell.




Maybe that could be it? The reason I would be hearing this noise now is b/c I used to ride with other keys attached to my bike key so I thought that noise was always the keys. Ever since taking all those keys out and still hearing the noise, I'm still confused. So maybe the noise was there the whole time.

Btw, I rode it again and upon closer inspection, the noise starts at 5k rpm and goes all the way up. It was just hard to hear it as the bike gets louder. So its NOT the limited range of 5-5.5k that I thought it was.


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And you sure its not the valves, or a bad bearing?

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And you sure its not the valves, or a bad bearing?
@ 6500 miles?

The noise is coming from the front. Engine noise would come from the side of the bike, right?


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My '08 does the same thing. Has done it since I picked it up new from the dealer. Never figured out what it was. Just decided to ignore it.
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My '08 does the same thing. Has done it since I picked it up new from the dealer. Never figured out what it was. Just decided to ignore it.
I doubt you have the same problem. You problem have the windscreen problem, 3rd eye problem or fuel tank problem


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Do you have the video on youtube as well? I can't see vids on Photobucket. I wonder if this is the same noise my bike has. I have the location of the noise narrowed down, but not what it actually is.
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I'd upload it on youtube but those files were on my laptop and I wont be on it till tomorrow.

My question in post #23 still stands.


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The nuts wont be able to make it up. However, if there is a rattle in the subframe, it can be heard up front.
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