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Fuel pump won't priming NEED QUICK HELP!!! please

I took off all the fairing from my bike to do a very good wash and detailing on it, so when it came time to put everything back together it does not start. After trying several time I killed the battery, but I think that my problems is that the pump won't prime, how can I correct that?

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Make sure your bas is plugged in.. It's between your headlights..
Its plug in.

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How about the kill switch ?
kill switch its on.

as I turn the key to on and off and I don't hear anything from the fuel pump, why is that fuel pump won't prime

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Any body out there with some useful tip on what to look for?

It does not make sense, why it will stop working after taking off the fairing and cleaning the whole bike. some water might have gotten to the bike ones the fairing wore off, but it has had plenty of time to dry.
I already check all the plugs to see if there wore all the way in and I also cleaned them with a electronic cleaner. but the I still cant get the pump to prime when I turn the key on

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kill switch its on.
Should be off for the bike to start...

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Your BAS is either upside down or not plugged in. Check the two wire connectors by your left ram air tube to make sure they are connected. Double check everything then come back to us.

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I checked all my work more than 3 time, but Ill check it again tomorrow asap after work..

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Should be off for the bike to start...
sorry it is OFF

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It's hard to analyze what you have done. Don't know too many that remove panels to clean the bike.. Did you mess with the tank? Pick it up and down a couple times? Maybe you clogged the fuel pump and messed it up.. Have gone through 3 of these over the years. They are very easy to mess up internally with all the crap gas out there. If you bypass the relay for the fuel you can see if it's still working.. Also check your fuses to make sure you are still getting power to the 2 pin under the tank. Lots of things to check for but not sure what all you did.




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It's hard to analyze what you have done. Don't know too many that remove panels to clean the bike.. Did you mess with the tank? Pick it up and down a couple times? Maybe you clogged the fuel pump and messed it up.. Have gone through 3 of these over the years. They are very easy to mess up internally with all the crap gas out there. If you bypass the relay for the fuel you can see if it's still working.. Also check your fuses to make sure you are still getting power to the 2 pin under the tank. Lots of things to check for but not sure what all you did.

Thanks TRIPAGE for giving me a hand

I did not take the tank of, I took the lower fairing, mid fairing and everything that is forward from there. In including the front nose fairing off the harness and the ram.
I check all the fuses that are under the self mid fairing and they all look good.

How can I bypass the fuel relay?

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"shot at the dark" did you try starting the bike with the gear in neutral?? try to see if itll prime on N or with the stand up
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"shot at the dark" did you try starting the bike with the gear in neutral?? try to see if itll prime on N or with the stand up

Yeah I tried that already and nothing
today after work I tested the fuel pump straight from the battery using a wire and it starts ON and OFF... But the fuel pump still does not prime with the key

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Bad fuel pump??? Just so happened to go out after you pulled everything???




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Blown fuse/s? Water in wiring connectors/fuse's.. maybe?
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Bad fuel pump??? Just so happened to go out after you pulled everything???

Thanks again for your tips tripage

I actually hard wired the fuel pump straight to the battery with some speaker wires, and it turns on and off as I touch the wire on and off with the battery.

Do you guys know where is the fuel pump fuel or relay located? (I think that that is what is not making the bump prime when I turn the key on and off)

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Blown fuse/s? Water in wiring connectors/fuse's.. maybe?
I already check all the fuses i think there is two packs of fuses on the 05RR right?
one next to the battery and
the other one under the left mid fairing.

is there another set of fuses that I might be missing?

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your sure its not you BAS upside down?! i had a very similar problem after removing my flarings. i cant see it being anything other than maybe a blow fuse.. if the BAS is right side up, try disconnecting the battery then reconnecting it to reset everyhthing. may reset the BAS if thats whats causing the problem.. oh and if its your first time taking off the nose, i know i had a bit of trouble disconnecting the plugs, are you sure you werent too rough and broke a wire?

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your sure its not you BAS upside down?! i had a very similar problem after removing my flarings. i cant see it being anything other than maybe a blow fuse.. if the BAS is right side up, try disconnecting the battery then reconnecting it to reset everyhthing. may reset the BAS if thats whats causing the problem.. oh and if its your first time taking off the nose, i know i had a bit of trouble disconnecting the plugs, are you sure you werent too rough and broke a wire?

good luck!

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The way i see the BAS sensor can only be connected one way, or it wont hook in the plastic sleeve that secures it in place.

But thanks Ill try to look on line to find some picture on the proper way the BAS should be mounted

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^^no problem man,

i never took mine off but ive heard of people who mounted it up side down.. so i guess it must be possible.. id give disconnecting the batt a try, its worth a shot. If you could find out how to by pass the BAS all together would be your best bet i think, it is possible all stunters do it. You know the pump works and IMO the BAS would be the main thing to check since you didnt touch anything else you were just removing the fairings, i wouldnt get into relays and stuff untill i ruled out 100% the most obvious things right away!

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Your bas will go in the other way, just take it off and hold is with the arrow pointing straight down, if it doesn't work turn off the bike and flip it over and try again, sounds like this is your problem. If you want to bypass the bas and make sure it's not this then short the outside 2 wires on the plug that the bas connects to. Then you can have the front fairing off and it will still work. Clutch wire is plugged in "electrical connection" on your clip-on? Without this your bike won't start either.




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Your bas will go in the other way, just take it off and hold is with the arrow pointing straight down, if it doesn't work turn off the bike and flip it over and try again, sounds like this is your problem. If you want to bypass the bas and make sure it's not this then short the outside 2 wires on the plug that the bas connects to. Then you can have the front fairing off and it will still work. Clutch wire is plugged in "electrical connection" on your clip-on? Without this your bike won't start either.

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I don't remember seeing an arrow on the BAS, but ill look again. if there is no arrow I will also try to by pass the BAS. I hope its the BAS that way I can get my baby back up running

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Tripage what is the clutch wire? Are you talking about for the kickstand/neutral safety?
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I have not been able to test out all the tip you guys have been given me.
My work schedule had not let me work on my baby, I miss her

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hey another tip, there is a PGM-FI fuse under your seat, somewhere. Unless they changed it for your model from the 04 (doubt it) that might be blown. I have had luck removing the fuel pumps, cleaning everything with alcohol or carb cleaner, replacing it, running fuel system cleaner through it, and being good to go. If your pump has debris in it or the regulator is stuck it can make it work extra hard, overheating it and blowing the fuse.

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