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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 08-29-2010, 01:21 PM Thread Starter
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Bike not starting (with video)

Alright people, I need some help here. This is my 2006 Honda CBR600RR and it is a daily rider for me (about 60 miles per day). It has 34500 miles on it and gets maintained completely and frequently. About 4 weeks ago, I got a rear tire puncture and the bike had been sitting for that time. Yesterday I changed out the tire and went to start it with a bit of a surprise. It wont start. It was very low on gas, so I decided to fill it a half a tank. It still wont start. The battery is good because you can obviously hear the starter motor crank. You can hear the fuel pump start up just fine when you switch the ignition on.

I've posted a video to YouTube to show exactly what is happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzLfgfT3Jk0

Any thoughts or feedback people?

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It doesn't sound like the starer motor is engaging. Is it actually cranking the bike over?

By the way, stop using the kill switch. You'll be having some more problems with the bike not starting when the contacts pit.
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It doesn't sound like the starer motor is engaging. Is it actually cranking the bike over?
Isn't the fact that you can hear the starter motor turn on mean that the starter motor is engaged? Or are you staying it's on and working, but it's not actually cranking the engine over? How would I check for this? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.

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try pop starting it?
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try pop starting it?
I have. A couple times now. I've done it before with this bike, but not for a while, so I wouldn't be surprised if I'm just not getting enough speed. I think the fact that I'm making my girlfriend help push me isn't helping either. ;)

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well it sounds like the motor is cranking. when u here a starter motor turn when its not under any load it sound like any other electric motor running so that obviously not the case. could it be flooded? it sounds like it fired a couple times. try holding the throttle wide open while its cranking. im not sure how prone to flooding these bikes are but its worth a try
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well it sounds like the motor is cranking. when u here a starter motor turn when its not under any load it sound like any other electric motor running so that obviously not the case. could it be flooded? it sounds like it fired a couple times. try holding the throttle wide open while its cranking. im not sure how prone to flooding these bikes are but its worth a try
Will go and try this now. Holding a throttle wide open while it's cranking would help if the engine is flooded?

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Dude mine does that every once in awhile.hold the throttle wide open.try that it should clear out whats in cylinders!
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Isn't the fact that you can hear the starter motor turn on mean that the starter motor is engaged? Or are you staying it's on and working, but it's not actually cranking the engine over? How would I check for this? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.
The starter motor can spin, but not engage the starter gear in the transmission.

When you press the starter button, can you clearly tell that the engine is turning? Gasoline smell from the exhaust, puffs of air?

You should be able to push start it yourself. 2nd gear, run along side the bike and get up to about 7mph, and it should kick over.
If the engine is indeed flooded, it might be worth it to send your injectors in to be tested to find which ones are bad and are leaking.
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Yep if its flooded holding it wide open will help.its almost like a vacuum!kinda drys out the cylinders
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So I did several more kick starts with a friend (kicked the girlfriend to the curb for these runs, worthless!) and we were finally able to get it going. Updated video for everyone here.


It's not running, but the idle is bouncing around 1,100 rpm and the idle adjustment knob is pretty much stuck. Scared to turn it off right now. Thoughts?

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Is that a metallic clicking noise I hear?
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Got the same prob

Had the same issue this morning, except i got stuck at the local gas station and had to push my bike home

Probably spend all night tonight trying to figure out what went wrong.

Let me know how you go!
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did you give your idle adjustment knob the finger? how dare you, In fact you should go out and apologize to it right now. J/K
anyways the bike definitely doesn't sound like it's running right. sounds like a lose cam chain, but I couldn't possibly know from that video and that wouldn't have much affect on the starter working anyways. however what demented stated about having a metallic clicking noise? yeah, I hear that as well.
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Sounds like you have a loose CCT, does that noise get worse at higher RPM? When you were riding it did it feel like it had a lack of power? Has it thrown any DTCs?
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having the same thing with my bike going crazy if you find out whats wrong can you let me no thanks....
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Which problem are you having? The not starting or the knocking sound?
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Not starting I'm going to put plugs in today and see what happen
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The OPs problem was that his bike was flooded...
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Hey guys, I actually have an 02 cbr f4i with 11,xxx miles and I am having the same starting problem, but I will try the open throttle method. However, I got to my problem in a much different manner so any help or suggestions would be super appreciated, and possibly followed by a fruit basket or beer if you live in Maryland. So here is what happened:

-I killed the battery and main fuse by connecting the wrong terminals while jump starting the bike in the dark.
-At that point I bought a new battery and replaced the main fuse and checked all the other fuses.
-Put the new battery in and now it tries to crank, the fuel injection primes, but it won't turnover.
-I'm thinking it might also be flooded, but the oil light is flashing (which shouldn't be the problem because I had the oil changed less than 200 miles ago, but it has been sitting for a month).
-My buddy and I tried to push start it, but we haven't tried the open throttle method, so I will try that.
-I'm thinking it may also be fouled spark plugs, because I have read that there may be gas on them at this point.

Any help would be super appreciated, and feel free to call or text me at 404 704 6135 (georgia cell phone).

Thanks everyone - Noob

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Hey, so I also wanted to add, I just tried the throttle method and it did not work. When I am hitting the starter, I am hearing the fuel pump work though, it makes a kind of sound when you pour a gallon of some liquid out of a container or something.
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Battery is not strong enough. When i moved my bike sat for a bit and thought it was something else cause it wasnt starting and even after charging still nought. I bought a new battery and has been running great ever since. Oh and a battery tender is your best friend.
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Hey BlueTori, thanks for the quick reply. I already replaced the battery and it is fully charged. Hopefully I can get a buddy to come by and help me check out the spark plugs to see if they are fouled. Thanks for your help though.
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Sure, i didnt read threw all the replies but im sure you have noticed that our bikes seem to have these problems out of the blue. I also had random blown fuses and always keep extras keep us posted mate.
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my 03 is now in the shop hope to hear something today if thay fix it i will let you guys no what it was ????????
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I just got my spark plugs in, tomorrow night I am taking a look at the old ones and will let you know asap.
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for posting the videos, words can only say so much the video was the way to go. Glad to hear ur bike started up, my bike wouldn't turn over from me tipping it over and I had to shut everything down and hold the throttle open to get it to crank over after my tip over. As far as the idle, I am stumped. Subscribed to hear what the problem is...

Best of luck getting everything fixed up man, first the flat then the bike not starting and now this- im sure you must be fed up with it all. Look forward to your bike being back in business



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