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stator problem NEED HELP

today i got up and decided my stator needs new paint (previous owner droped it) anyways i undo all the bolts pop it off and one of the orange things is burnt, im not sure what that means so i put it back on and start the bike and there was a crunching sound coming from there that faded (when i did mine oil came out and when i put it back on it started grinding at first then mellowed to a stop) a very mild crackleing or wistleing sound in the stator. need help bad.
so im put in more oil to even it out and it helped a bit. should i replace the stator?

also there is like a mild howl type sound out my muffler at about 4500 RPM



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Did you put everything back in correctly, tightened down and with loctite? Might want to pull the cover off and find out what went wrong.
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yea idk its sounding ok but my battery did die for the first time today.
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Something either wasn't put in right, or possible the wire from the stator got chewed up from not being in the right place. Hopefully nothing came loose inside.
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Something either wasn't put in right, or possible the wire from the stator got chewed up from not being in the right place. Hopefully nothing came loose inside.
I never undid anything just poped it off and decided I didn't want to paint. Also a piece of the stator was burnt black.
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I never undid anything just poped it off and decided I didn't want to paint. Also a piece of the stator was burnt black.
Sounds like it shorted out and you need a new stator. A burnt piece should have been a clear indication something was wrong.
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Sounds like it shorted out and you need a new stator. A burnt piece should have been a clear indication something was wrong.
i took it in today to als honda told them about the burnt black piece and they said it should be fine, as much as i dont trust them i dont really have the money for one, what could happen if i leave it for a few weeks?
do you recomend going aftermarket or stock if i replace it and what brand thanks.
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There's no aftermarket that I know of, other than race kits which will do you no good on the street.

If it is indeed shorted out, it wouldn't be a good thing to continue riding the bike like that as that sound you're hearing could be electrical arcing. Would be worth it for you to remove the stator cover, look around in there, and maybe post up some pictures. I wouldn't put it past the dealership to have not looked at the bike really.
You shouldn't ride or start the bike until you find the issue and fix it.
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i took it in today to als honda told them about the burnt black piece and they said it should be fine, as much as i dont trust them i dont really have the money for one, what could happen if i leave it for a few weeks?
do you recomend going aftermarket or stock if i replace it and what brand thanks.
a burnt stator is not good. it needs to be replaced... this is from ronayers.com. im sure you can find them cheaper some where else though.

http://www.ronayers.com/Search/N/687...-D01/Source/HO

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There's no aftermarket that I know of, other than race kits which will do you no good on the street.

If it is indeed shorted out, it wouldn't be a good thing to continue riding the bike like that as that sound you're hearing could be electrical arcing. Would be worth it for you to remove the stator cover, look around in there, and maybe post up some pictures. I wouldn't put it past the dealership to have not looked at the bike really.
You shouldn't ride or start the bike until you find the issue and fix it.
here is a pic of it. if you think its nessasary i will replace it immediatly because ive been having to bump start it all day.
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Um, yeah. Don't start or ride the bike until you get that replaced. You can clearly see where things have melted and shorted out.
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Um, yeah. Don't start or ride the bike until you get that replaced.
will i need a new battery also or anything else?
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If your battery is bad, yes. If it's fine, no. Try getting it load tested.
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will i need a new battery also or anything else?
wow, just wow. cant believe the dealership said that was ok.

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wow, just wow. cant believe the dealership said that was ok.
I can. Ever see a picture of my fork internals, after fixed, that the dealership said were good?
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I can. Ever see a picture of my fork internals, after fixed, that the dealership said were good?
thanks for all your help how difficult is it to install could i do it myself?
would als honda have one in stock i could buy tomarow?

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thanks for all your help how difficult is it to install could i do it myself?
would als honda have one in stock i could buy tomarow?

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Do you remember what you did to remove the cover in the first place? It's that hard.
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Do you remember what you did to remove the cover in the first place? It's that hard.
ok and where is the plug at?
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It's right above the stator. Follow the wire, you'll find it. How did you remove the cover without unplugging it anyway?
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I might have a stator laying around.... Pm me sometime later this week... i'll have to check the storage...

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It's right above the stator. Follow the wire, you'll find it. How did you remove the cover without unplugging it anyway?
i didnt fully take it off just poped it off without unplugging it.
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The plug is right near it, just follow the wires up.

If you have been bump starting your bike all day then chances are your battery is stuffed. And it got that way cause you were riding around with your stator in that condition.

Just to give you an idea of how bad that fault could get...
Have you ever hear the term 'crankcase explosion'? It is normally used in conjunction with large diesel engines and when it occurs people usually die.
There is a possibility that this could occur if you keep riding that bike around in its current state. With the arcing that is sure to be happening inside your engine, and the heated oil (and maybe a little fuel) vapour running around inside there as well, you have a very bad set of circumstances, I'll leave the result up to your imagination.

Oh, and find a new bike shop cause your current one is full of morons.
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The plug is right near it, just follow the wires up.

If you have been bump starting your bike all day then chances are your battery is stuffed. And it got that way cause you were riding around with your stator in that condition.

Just to give you an idea of how bad that fault could get...
Have you ever hear the term 'crankcase explosion'? It is normally used in conjunction with large diesel engines and when it occurs people usually die.
There is a possibility that this could occur if you keep riding that bike around in its current state. With the arcing that is sure to be happening inside your engine, and the heated oil (and maybe a little fuel) vapour running around inside there as well, you have a very bad set of circumstances, I'll leave the result up to your imagination.

Oh, and find a new bike shop cause your current one is full of morons.
i'd rather spend the money and get a new one haha.
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It's right above the stator. Follow the wire, you'll find it. How did you remove the cover without unplugging it anyway?
ok i got it all off and cover the motor with a cloth while my stator somes in but the stator and chips taken off everywhere like it was shredded in there what can i do to get the pieces of metal and plastic out of my motor?
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Pieces of shredded metal and plastic in the motor? Can you get pictures?

That doesn't sound too good.
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Pieces of shredded metal and plastic in the motor? Can you get pictures?

That doesn't sound too good.
hummmmmmmm............

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Pieces of shredded metal and plastic in the motor? Can you get pictures?

That doesn't sound too good.
i cant see any metal or plastic but the stator was shredded in places with the copper broken in places.

how could i clean it out? how far back could these pieces go from the stater?
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Into the entire lubrication system.
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Into the entire lubrication system.
how do i get it out? take the oil pan off and run water threw?
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