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1st gear..... bike shuts off???????

Okay bike went down a week ago most of the damage was on the left side. I still was able to ride it home. I changed the stator today and went for a spin. Now everytime i start the bike a throw it in 1st it cuts off. I am unable to move the bike. It cranks up every time, put ip the kick stand then throw it in first and it cuts off.


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Check your clutch and kickstand safety switches. More likely to be an issue with your clutch safety switch.
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check the wiring for the kill switch on the kickstand. that's your problem

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clutch, or kickstand sensors are tripping the kill.


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Kickstand switch, clutch switch, diodes (found in the fuse box)

Check in that order...
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I did a check of all the fuses and they seem to be all good, The wires midway through are exposed, this could be my issue. Are there more than one sensor plugs coming from the kick stand

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nope, one sensor on stand, one sensor on clutch,


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I did a check of all the fuses and they seem to be all good, The wires midway through are exposed, this could be my issue. Are there more than one sensor plugs coming from the kick stand
Fuses will not cause this issue. Only the kickstand sensor is by the kickstand. The wires pass along the engine and below the stator cover.

The clutch safety switch and kickstand safety switch, aside from a damaged transmission, would be the only things to cause this problem.
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THANKS I WILL LOOK AT EVERYTHING THIS WEEKEND. i KNOW WHERE THE KICK STAND WIRE STOPS AND STARTS....... WHERE IS THE CLUTCH SAFTEY SWITCH????????

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On the clutch lever. Maybe you accidentally unplugged the subharness for the turn signal/horn/clutch assembly since it's located near the plug for the stator.
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Am I the only one that thought it said "bike sluts"?
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THANKS I WILL LOOK AT EVERYTHING THIS WEEKEND. i KNOW WHERE THE KICK STAND WIRE STOPS AND STARTS....... WHERE IS THE CLUTCH SAFTEY SWITCH????????
ON THE CLUTCH LEVER...

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ON THE CLUTCH LEVER...

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Okay..... so it was the kickstand sensor that took the damage as well as the stator. I took off the bolt and it fell apart in to pieces. I will post some pics.


.....Just need to order a new one Ronayres has them for 60bucks

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Okay..... so it was the kickstand sensor that took the damage as well as the stator. I took off the bolt and it fell apart in to pieces. I will post some pics.


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good to hear you have it sorted, and a nice easy fix!
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I don't see how it could be the clutch switch. That only allows you to start the bike in gear, it willl shut off even if the clutch is pulled in and you shift the bike with the stand down. This could of only been the kickstand switch or it's wiring.
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I don't see how it could be the clutch switch. That only allows you to start the bike in gear, it willl shut off even if the clutch is pulled in and you shift the bike with the stand down. This could of only been the kickstand switch or it's wiring.
Crash damage does strange things, especially if it's damaged and shorts to power.
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I understand that, but a short in that system should not cause that effect. Only the kickstand switch and it's wiring should cause the problem listed.

If I had my clutch pulled or released, it should not shut off when shifted. The kickstand switch will definitely shut off the bike when malfunctioning.
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I understand that, but a short in that system should not cause that effect. Only the kickstand switch and it's wiring should cause the problem listed.

If I had my clutch pulled or released, it should not shut off when shifted. The kickstand switch will definitely shut off the bike when malfunctioning.
If it gets shorted to another power line, yes it can cause that problem. Not the switch itself, but the circuit.
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Pardon me for asking, but back in the day we never had kickstand switches. I understand what it does, but why? Seems a bit lame? (just sayin')

And it's not legally required in my state, maybe others?

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Pardon me for asking, but back in the day we never had kickstand switches. I understand what it does, but why? Seems a bit lame? (just sayin')

And it's not legally required in my state, maybe others?
It's a safety feature to prevent crashes and in today's litigation based society, insurance for the manufacturer to not be sued. It is far too easy for someone to forget to put up the kickstand, start the bike and ride off. The safety switch prevents that from happening.

The kickstand faces forward when all the way down, so even if you hit it on the ground, it wont just fold up. Imagine what would happen if you take a left hand turn with the kickstand down.
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Pardon me for asking, but back in the day we never had kickstand switches. I understand what it does, but why? Seems a bit lame? (just sayin')

And it's not legally required in my state, maybe others?
Its called the retard factor...

If some idiot can hurt themselves by leaving the kickstand down, they will sure as **** try suing honda for negligence... and over there in the states probably win.
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