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Oil in sparkplugs?

So pretty much I think a ring or all is out letting oil inn... Or is it my valve seals..piston and rods should be goood on a 03 600rr with just 18,xxx miles..I was thinking getting new rings and all new seals would be a goodthing? I don't have money for upgraded pistons right now..thanks
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More likely to be a valve stem seal than blown rings.

How much oil is on the plug?
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Like not soaking with oil but it's black made my new laser plugs turn black when I turned it on than bike died..I'd have to do a compression test asap
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Wet black or soot black?

If its soot black then you may have a blown injector...
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Little wet, I really don't know what soot means lol, I think my injectors are fine it's werid cause my bike ran better with shitty plugs, but when I put these new plugs I knew something wrong internal
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Are they NGK plugs? You should not run any other plugs besides what the manual suggests.

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Check your compression as it sounds like you have blown a valve stem seal.

Also make sure you are running the correct plugs.
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Yes I'm using the right plugs, and I hope my compression is good, if it's not than it's my rings correct? But if it's good than it's my seals? Thanks bro for the help
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Yes I'm using the right plugs, and I hope my compression is good, if it's not than it's my rings correct? But if it's good than it's my seals? Thanks bro for the help
Correct...
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going do a comp test...but i just thought about something..i just did an oil change and i put 3 quarts in and i heard my bike takes 2.9? when i put my bike up without kick stand or barly going up it just shoots up?!
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going do a comp test...but i just thought about something..i just did an oil change and i put 3 quarts in and i heard my bike takes 2.9? when i put my bike up without kick stand or barly going up it just shoots up?!

right, the level is to be checked while bike is straight up and down

while on its stand, its barely visable.


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right, the level is to be checked while bike is straight up and down

while on its stand, its barely visable.
yeah i think i have too much oil...it should be in the middle between the both lines correct? would this cause my bike to have oil in my plugs?
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yeah i think i have too much oil...it should be in the middle between the both lines correct? would this cause my bike to have oil in my plugs?

if you didnt put more than three quarts in, no you do not have too much

and no too much oil would not cause oil on the plugs (there is no path for oil to get to them)

can you get a picture of your plugs so we can see what they look like? i bet its not oil on them i bet its just normal carbon.


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if you didnt put more than three quarts in, no you do not have too much

and no too much oil would not cause oil on the plugs (there is no path for oil to get to them)

can you get a picture of your plugs so we can see what they look like? i bet its not oil on them i bet its just normal carbon.
alright cause when i take the kick stand off the oil level shoots up! but yeah ill show pics of my regular plugs and my NEW laser plugs that i just put in and its now black..id have to get home and take them..but ill post em up later today.
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alright cause when i take the kick stand off the oil level shoots up! but yeah ill show pics of my regular plugs and my NEW laser plugs that i just put in and its now black..id have to get home and take them..but ill post em up later today.

ok, repeat with me

Bike on stand == no oil in window


but on level surface, straight up and down, front wheel straight, oil is now visable

and should fall some where inbetween the upper and lower lines of said window (any where within there is acceptable)

is that not what you are experiencing?


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ok, repeat with me

Bike on stand == no oil in window


but on level surface, straight up and down, front wheel straight, oil is now visable

and should fall some where inbetween the upper and lower lines of said window (any where within there is acceptable)

is that not what you are experiencing?
yeah i check my oil when the stands not on, the whole window is filled.
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The only way your going to end up with oil on the plugs as a result of putting to much in will be accompanied by a VERY big bang as your motor self destructs... but you would need to put a LOT more than 3 quarts in for that to happen, probably more like 10.

At most it should be sitting at the top line in the window, with the bike held vertically on level ground, and without you on it.
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Okay oil is fine and I havnt done comp test yet..started the bike than pull the plugs out just alot of carbon and little wet from gas..bike needs gas to stay on..maybe my tbs are not syncd? I really don't know what's wrong I don't have blown hg or bad rings no smoke comes out what so ever..
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When was the last time you changed your air filter?
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Dont rmr...But it looks clean..you think its causing my bike to not Stay up? Gonna take it to a shop soon.
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Is it just one plug or all the plugs?
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Is it just one plug or all the plugs?

What it? Carbon? Yes on all plugs..no oil just a tiny bit of gas on 1or 2 plugs..bike starts up but i gotta put gas..when its up theres no smoke what so ever..
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Checked the air filter and looked good but i used a air comressor to blow it for it bit than started bike, starts on its own for a bit than needs little throttle to keep it up again..but other than that im still lost
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What is it idling at?
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What is it idling at?

Under 2 like 1500..
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Ok, well there are pretty much only 2 things left to check - vacuum leak and ignition timing. Do you have a timing light?
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Ok, well there are pretty much only 2 things left to check - vacuum leak and ignition timing. Do you have a timing light?

yeah i have to go find it..and where would it leak from?
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yeah i have to go find it..and where would it leak from?
Anywhere from the throttle bodies to the engine and any pipe attached to that area...
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So got the idle to go up at 1000 k when i click it to start at cold start but than go down..so i had to put a little gss keep it up..took the bike to the shop said idle adjuster is broken thats why it wont idle but it seems to screw left and right? I need help
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So got the idle to go up at 1000 k when i click it to start at cold start but than go down..so i had to put a little gss keep it up..took the bike to the shop said idle adjuster is broken thats why it wont idle but it seems to screw left and right? I need help
If its trying to idle at 1500 like you said then there is something more sinister going on, if it isn't getting that high and the little knob is just spinning then you may have a broken adjuster.

Bit of a PITA to fix but not technically difficult... all you do is pull the tank and air box to gain access to the throttle bodies then swap the cable... most of the time the cable breaks as a result of corrosion and a heavy hand...
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