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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-19-2011, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
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Bike Cutting Out While Riding

Today I was going down the interstate to meet some guys. I had been riding for about an hour between 7k - 8k. My bike started lurching. I downshifted and it still did it. Once I slowed down it stopped. I pulled into a mall and shut it off. It fired right back up. Once I got back onto the interstate, it did it again. I sat at a gas station for about 15 minutes. After that, nothing was wrong. The charging system is fine. I thought I had the rectifier issue, but when the bike was cutting out my gauges weren't flashing. During my 2 hour ride home on the interstate, everything was fine. Would this be a stopped up fuel filter?

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The bike doesn't really have a fuel filter, might be worth checking the connections to the battery though....
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The battery connections were fine. When revving to 5,000, the voltage was slowly going up.

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What mods have you made to it?
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see if it's only at high rpms...ride at a steady 10-12k. Sounds like a fuel pump pressure issue

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I have to agree, get the fuel pressure checked asap and see if it can hold full pressure at the higher rpm range.

Ive had fuel pumps that could sustain a low throttle, low rpm, but fail horribly as soon as they were put under a load.

Simplest thing to check first would be the fuel supply, if that all checks out then move onto the ignition. However I dont think that will be a problem because generally if the ignition was cutting out you would simply have a dead engine. Unless a ground is loose, then I suppose the vibs at higher rpms could cause a intermittent problem.

Hmmm...

Fuel first, then possible ignition failure. Although I could be wrong, but thats my best guess from the information given.

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The only major mod I know of is a Yoshimura slip-on. On my way home, I was cruising at about 7500 RPM and it seemed fine. There were a few times where I thought it was happening again, but I gave it some gas and it was fine. I've had the bike about a month and this is the first time I've noticed the problem. How do I go about checking the fuel pressure?

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After putting on my new rear tire, I went and rode a little tonight. I stayed between 8 - 9k twice, each time for about a minute. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Maybe this weekend I will hit the interstate and see if the problem comes up again.

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Just a thought, but if it happens again, pull over and try opening up the gas cap. Listen for an inrush of air indicating a partial vacuum in the tank. You might have a kinked or pinched gas tank vacuum hose.
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Today towards the end of my 3.5 hour ride, it started to happen. I pulled over, and opened the tank. I didn't hear any air rushing. After that it was fine.

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I had an F4 that would do the same thing. The guy who bought it after me said something about a voltage rectifier.....idk thats why I sold it.
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sounds like what my bike started doing.. been working on it for a year now. may sound crazy but mine ended up being the air temp sensor going bad. hope it helps
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On my way home from work yesterday it happened again. I pulled into a gas station turned the bike off and opened the tank. I also put some gas in it since I had 1 bar left. The rest of my ride home it was fine. Tommorrow it will be raining so I will check the vent lines.

Whatever is going on, turning the bike off and opening the tank fixes it.

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On my way home from work yesterday it happened again. I pulled into a gas station turned the bike off and opened the tank. I also put some gas in it since I had 1 bar left. The rest of my ride home it was fine. Tommorrow it will be raining so I will check the vent lines.

Whatever is going on, turning the bike off and opening the tank fixes it.
Then you probably have a pinched or blocked tank vent hose.
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So I have an update. I finally blew out the vent lines. I still have the problem. It would happen when there were 2 bars or less left. When riding hard it would happen at 3 bars left. Today while riding hard it happened after only losing 1 bar from full. Pulling over, opening the gas thank, and shaking the bike got rid of the problem. On my way home it sputtered at 60mph. I then gassed it to 70mph and it was fine. Tonight I drained the tank and didn't see anything inside.

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Pull your fuel pump out and check the strainer for anything, you will need to pull the pump apart to really clean it out...
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I took the pump out yesterday and didn't notice anything unusual. If the problem comes back up then I'll pull it out and clean it.

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If you're fuel pressure turns out to be ok (50psi) then it could be bad gas or a clogged injector(s). How many miles are on the bike? Have you had this bike on a dyno before? You can always put it on the dyno and see what your A/F ratio is doing. If you see it dropping off in the upper RPM range or WOT then you'll know you have a fuel problem.


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23,000 miles. Never been on the dyno. I can go wide open no problem at the beginning of a run. It's just after a while it starts cutting out. Even after it starts cutting out, I can keep the RPMs below 6k and it's like nothing it wrong. But if I try going higher than that it will cut out. After I open the tank and shake the bike, I can go wide open again. When I say cut out I mean that it starts sputtering. It sputters like there isn't enough fuel getting to the motor.


All the symptoms are telling me vent issue, but the lines are clear.

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They can get pretty full up with crap and still look ok on the outside so I would reccomend pulling it out to clean it.
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What would be the proper way to clean it?

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I have some more symptoms after riding tonight. In 2nd and 3rd gear the bike wont get above 12,000 rpm. The rpms just stay steady at 12. No jumping or anything. It will hold steady at 12, just wont pull anymore once it gets there.

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man im sorry your having this issue... this happened to my old bike and I sold it to someone who "knew how to fix it" please keep us all updated and I know your not dumb, but just a thought... the bike isnt over heating huh? temp stays below 250? and clean air filter... premium fuel... have you put any cleaner inside the tank?

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No overheating. I've never had the bike get above 230. I had a friend suggest cleaning the air filter and running the FI cleaner thought the tank. I run 87 fuel.

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Definitely sounds like a dying fuel pump...

You just remove the pump from the tank and then pull everything you can off of it and clean it all up with fuel... there is the 'filter' in there as well, pull that apart and try getting as much crap out of it as possible.

Once you have done that get the pressure checked, should be 50psi, and if that's good check the flow rate.
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When I get a chance I will take it apart and clean it. I also cleaned out the air filter to see if that helped. I haven't rode it since I cleaned it. I have a friend that works as a mechanic for a local dealership. He said they can't check the pressure. There is a Honda dealership that I may call.

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The same problem is happening to me too.... started 3 days ago but I haven't had time to check the battery or grounds. It would only happen in around 2nd and 3rd gear at around 5k rpm... when it happens to me I could see the rpm drop all the way down to 1k then jump right back up. Would really like some advice on this subject too.
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Im right with you guys as well. My '03 is doing the exact same thing. I have tried everything. Bought all new vent lines and re ran them only to have the same result. I went on a 100 mile ride yesterday and it would start acting up only when my bike got a little warmer sitting at a stop light or something. Not like really hot or anything it never overheated just a few degrees warmer then cruising temp. Im really hoping someone on here could help.

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The longer I ride, the lower in the rpm range it cuts out. After riding home from work for close to 40 minutes, I couldnt get above 10.5 rpm. So whatever is going on, it gets worse, the longer I ride.

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^That may happen as the fuel pump heats up, which will take a while as the fuel must heat up as well.
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