Front wheel not spinning freely - 600RR.net
Troubleshooting Having trouble with your bike? Common know issues or trobuleshooting questions here.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
Knee Dragger
 
pyadlapalli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 171
Thanks: 16
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Front wheel not spinning freely

Today I put my bike on both (rear and front) stands. I noticed that my front wheel is not spinning freely. If I turn it by hand there is some drag and sound from the brakes and the wheel is stopping without even completing half a turn.

Is this normal? Are my brakes dragging the discs?

2009 Black CBR600RR
Jardine RT-1 Dual Exhaust

2007 Blue/Silver CBR600RR
[wrecked]

2006 Black CBR600RR [stolen]
pyadlapalli is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 08:39 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
CK_32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 3,927
Thanks: 97
Thanked 294 Times in 238 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Idk about that severe but there was a thread a little while ago and it's said that the brake rub is normal.

I'm assuming yea because wheels are heavy and don't spin too easily. Remember these aren't skateboard wheels these are machines. Mine rub bad too I hate it I hear it when in neutral coasting to a light or pushing it into my garage.

Someone with more info will probably be along shortly and tell for sure.

I'm assuming yes it's normal.


My YouTube channel.


Support your troops, Not your government.
CK_32 is offline  
post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 08:40 PM
World Superbike Racer
 
biglen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: pittsburgh
Posts: 2,450
Images: 5
Thanks: 145
Thanked 232 Times in 207 Posts
Feedback Score: 9 reviews
Make sure that the stands are not catching anything on ur front wheel. I know sometime when i put my front stand on and spin wheel the insides of the stands actually are hitting the middle of the rim causing it not to spin freely. If not that, did u take front wheel off at all for any reason? Make sure wheel is on correctly, make sure calipers are on right, and make sure forks are straight... Sometimes is forks are inverted can cause the wheel to not spin freely...

biglen is offline  
 
post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 08:43 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
CK_32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 3,927
Thanks: 97
Thanked 294 Times in 238 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Yea and if it's ever been down or anything like that would help us to know and if anyone did front end work recently.


My YouTube channel.


Support your troops, Not your government.
CK_32 is offline  
post #5 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 08:52 PM Thread Starter
Knee Dragger
 
pyadlapalli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 171
Thanks: 16
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I never removed the wheel.

Recently, it has been down. But I got it checked by the shop. They said the forks are fine. Also, when I am riding or push the bike I didn't notice any problem. I can hear the brakes rubbing when I spin the wheel. How can I check if my forks are really fine?

2009 Black CBR600RR
Jardine RT-1 Dual Exhaust

2007 Blue/Silver CBR600RR
[wrecked]

2006 Black CBR600RR [stolen]
pyadlapalli is offline  
post #6 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 09:12 PM
World Superbike Racer
 
biglen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: pittsburgh
Posts: 2,450
Images: 5
Thanks: 145
Thanked 232 Times in 207 Posts
Feedback Score: 9 reviews
Its normal for brakes to drag a bit, but the front wheel should atleast spin a few times when u give it a turn... One way to check and make sure forks are not inverted are, loosen front axle bolt, and pinch bolts, pump up and down on the handle bars a few times, then tighten pinch bolts on opposite side of front axle bolt, then tighten pinch bolts on front axle bolt side, then tighten front axle bolt. Make sure everything is torqued to specifications.

biglen is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to biglen For This Useful Post:
pyadlapalli (04-25-2012)
post #7 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 10:22 PM
Pocketbike Racer
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Maryville TN
Posts: 265
Thanks: 1
Thanked 30 Times in 26 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by biglen View Post
Its normal for brakes to drag a bit, but the front wheel should atleast spin a few times when u give it a turn... One way to check and make sure forks are not inverted are, loosen front axle bolt, and pinch bolts, pump up and down on the handle bars a few times, then tighten pinch bolts on opposite side of front axle bolt, then tighten pinch bolts on front axle bolt side, then tighten front axle bolt. Make sure everything is torqued to specifications.
Not to be pedantic, but the correct tightening sequence (from the manual) is:

1. axle bolt
2. right pinch bolts
3. bounce the front end to let the forks align to the axle
4. left pinch bolts

OP: while everything is loose (before tightening everything up again) see if the wheel spins freely. It should go around at least once or so before stopping. Then try again after tightening up all the bolts and see if anything changes.

Edit: Go for a few minutes ride, with minimal use of brakes. Stop, get off, and feel the rotors with your hand. They should be cool or barely warm to the touch.

Last edited by checksix; 04-25-2012 at 10:27 PM.
checksix is offline  
post #8 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 10:25 PM
Training Wheel Hero
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Key Largo, Florida
Posts: 43
Thanks: 10
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
A little drag is normal. A lot is not. If it tends to stop in the same place the rotor may be a little out-of-round. That's pretty normal, too. As with pad drag, so goes the rotor: a little is okay, a lot is not.
KeysRider3 is offline  
post #9 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-25-2012, 10:46 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
Bullast's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 42.5833° N, 114.4667° W
Posts: 2,814
Images: 19
Thanks: 17
Thanked 225 Times in 179 Posts
Feedback Score: 10 reviews
Take your calipers off real quick and see if it spins nice and free.

Loosen and tighten the axle and pinch bolts as described above.




Biglen,

The way to check if the forks are inverted is by the year bud. 05 was the first year.

Tasha
Phatty
Super Sic

FOR SALE

05/06 OEM Body Parts (Red/Black) Price Drophttps://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=468281
Track Day/ Race Gearhttps://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=470449
Leupold 1" Unimounthttps://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.p...66#post6155866
Bullast is offline  
post #10 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-26-2012, 01:35 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
fallingbomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 3,191
Thanks: 108
Thanked 167 Times in 143 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
It's fine. If you are really worried you could test with the calipers pulled back.

2007 CBR600RR -- CVMA #270 -- Pictures -- Build Thread
fallingbomb is offline  
post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-27-2012, 01:33 AM
Knee Dragger
 
Royalfelix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Miami FL
Posts: 209
Thanks: 3
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
ur best test is what everyone is saying, pull the calipers off and spin the wheel, slight brake pad drag is normal BUT when u spin the wheel it should spin a few times not stop at half a turn thats for sure. take off calipers then spin it see what happens. hope this helps. o btw if taking off the calipers makes the wheels spin more freely, then you could have 2 of 1 things wrong a ton of rotor run out causing to much friction, "proper way is with a dial indicator to check for runout, or a symptom would be while going 50 or 60 slightly press on that front brake and see if u can feel any pulsating ( this is true on vehicles not sure if bikes are wired or pure hydraulic?) if so this means ur rotors are bad OR most likely bad calipers if they drag to much.

those who are always doing what they know, are never doing something new to learn.
Royalfelix is offline  
post #12 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-27-2012, 08:14 AM
Knee Dragger
 
Dogman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 160
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Also, check to ensure the spring clips for the brake pads in the caliper are in the right way. I have found they will go in two ways, but only one way is correct.
Dogman is offline  
post #13 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-08-2014, 03:59 AM
Knee Dragger
 
runout234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Wasaga Beach/Ottawa, ON
Posts: 128
Thanks: 12
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i recently put in my front tire and am having problems with the centering of the wheel. I had followed the correct procedure. When analyzing the problem it seemed like the pads are not centering on the rotors causing unnecessary rubbing. anyone have a solution to this problem?
runout234 is offline  
post #14 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-08-2014, 07:32 AM
Moto GP Racer
 
Jim Moore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,632
Thanks: 5
Thanked 197 Times in 143 Posts
Feedback Score: 9 reviews
Is your wheel on backwards?
Jim Moore is offline  
post #15 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-08-2014, 08:59 AM
AMA Supersport Racer
 
gotama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,389
Thanks: 98
Thanked 71 Times in 62 Posts
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
you know that torque spec on the front axle the 44 ft lbs that it says is needed via the manual
yeah
you can back that off to about 30 ft lbs and it will help with the stiction


also when putting on your front wheel with the axle pinch bolts loose and the axle nut loos spin the wheel and then apply the brakes
then zip tie the brake lever down and then tighten everything up

Last edited by gotama; 08-08-2014 at 09:01 AM.
gotama is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to gotama For This Useful Post:
D1stylz (08-08-2014)
post #16 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-08-2014, 10:52 AM
AMA Supersport Racer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,377
Thanks: 131
Thanked 61 Times in 49 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Also, I'm pretty sure that on models before 2007 the left and right spacers on the front tires were different sizes and if you switched them the wheel would drag. I made this mistake on my 05 1000rr. You might want to look into that if you have an older model
RedisFaster is offline  
post #17 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-09-2014, 07:13 PM
Knee Dragger
 
runout234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Wasaga Beach/Ottawa, ON
Posts: 128
Thanks: 12
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
My wheel isnt backwards. I checked the direction. I dont think that changing the torque spec would change anything since the axle is fixed to one side which only allows the wheel to rotate, not move side to side. I tried various methods such as brakes full on, push down on forks and with them off. Im still having issues with the tire not rotating freely. The only Thing that I can think of that might be my problem is that the forks some how got rotated causing the callipers to shift
runout234 is offline  
post #18 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-09-2014, 07:14 PM
Knee Dragger
 
runout234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Wasaga Beach/Ottawa, ON
Posts: 128
Thanks: 12
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Its an 09 btw
runout234 is offline  
post #19 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-09-2014, 07:21 PM
AMA Supersport Racer
 
dehingst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 790
Images: 3
Thanks: 140
Thanked 88 Times in 63 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It may be normal. I notice on mine if the brakes and rotors are hot there is more drag than when they're cold. A half turn seems a little much though hot or cold.

dehingst is offline  
post #20 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-10-2014, 01:31 PM
Knee Dragger
 
runout234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Wasaga Beach/Ottawa, ON
Posts: 128
Thanks: 12
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
When I say they dont rotate freely, Im taking about when my front wheel is in the air. I know its suppose to drag a little from the brakes but when I rotate them it barley rotates after rotating it.
runout234 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the 600RR.net forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome