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Reaching top speed

After some noobs rudely messed up my thread and got locked, i decided to start a new thread. As this is a public forum which i browse everyday and is very informative which i have gained alot of knowledge. If i knew my thread was going to be gunned down by some imature idiots i would have not posted, but im not going to give them that satisfaction.

As posted before, i ride a grafitti edition with 10 000kms, leo vince slip on and im not sure if a sprocket conversion has been done as i bought the bike with 4500kms and i just added a slipon.

These bikes can do top speeds up to 280kms but i cant get pass 245kms. What could it be.

These speeds was done over the weekend on our Sunday early morning run on a open farm road with no traffic. As you know we have alot of nice open roads on the wine routes in South Africa Cape Town with some nice twisties as well A buddy of mine manage to get 272km on his cbr 600 05 model wen we went on our bike run.

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Your thread wasn't locked because of noobs...it was locked because this forum doesn't promote the type of behaviour that you're condoning in this thread.


Why would you EVER care about going that fast on a public road? Take it to the track.

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Every single Vehicle in the world has a top speed of Xxx on the dash. Just because it has a top speed on the dash does not mean it will reach it. Just look at the Veyron for example.

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Your thread wasn't locked because of noobs...it was locked because this forum doesn't promote the type of behaviour that you're condoning in this thread.


Why would you EVER care about going that fast on a public road? Take it to the track.
I agree with this statement. I still gave him an answer so he can shut up.

I find it funny though because he is calling us all idiots yet he asks us for answers.

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I agree with this statement. I still gave him an answer so he can shut up.

I find it funny though because he is calling us all idiots yet he asks us for answers.
Whats wrong with attempting to take your bike to the max it can go, while i know alot bikers that do. Im not calling you all idiots i was refering to those that replied with negative comments.
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As a mod I can tell you we lock threads because its either promoting illegal activity or because its gone way off topic or because it has no reason being a thread.

So im going to help you with this much advice.... Yes this is a public forum so you are going to receive the public input majority of the public on here do not condone activity like trying to max your bike out on public roads. They dont care about what you do to yourself its the chance of harming another person on the road.

So to answer your question... there are a lot of factors as pointed out in your last thread.

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Who gives a **** why he wants to go that fast, he has a technical question.

OP, the max speed as calculated by redline in 6th is going to be difficult to hit. The actual top speed is going to depend on HP and wind resistance etc.
So you are free to ask these questions about maxing your bike out on public roads but you will receive negative response.. If its just retarded spamming flaming we will take care of it but dont get mad if we lock because no body wants to help because they dont agree.
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Whats wrong with attempting to take your bike to the max it can go, while i know alot bikers that do. Im not calling you all idiots i was refering to those that replied with negative comments.
besides the fact that at the top speed of these bikes

that if a car were to show up you wouldnt be able to react to it fast enough to get stoped because you may or may not be able to see it

and then when you hit that persons car the likely hood of death on BOTH parties, including the innocent party, is EXTREEMLY high ...


and then even if that doesnt happen you get tagged by the cops, likely you dont give a ****, and you keep it pinned and run from the cops

causing the cops to hate us

or you wreck your bike, kill your self, cause other damage that your insurance company has to pay out, and thus we end up having a higher premium because they can justify the increase that much more because some arrogant person thought that it was just a little bit of fun, that has cased a cascade effect of screw every one over while i have fun.....

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And the flaming starts with no positive feedback. Guess this is not the forum i thought it would be helping fellow honda ethusiasts.

Im fully aware of the concequences, but like i said it was done a road with no traffic.
So thanks for assisting with not answering a simple technical question.
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i dont understand why you have to mention your on public roads. its clearly illegal to go that fast and this forum doesnt condone that kind of activity. you should have just asked the question point blank if you wanted an answer man.
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Okay.... So I will Repost all these Helpful posts that obviously you didnt answer or you didnt care to read... in your last thread...


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Did you change the gearing on the bike, like -1,+2 sprockets? If so, that takes away top speed...
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Who gives a **** why he wants to go that fast, he has a technical question.

OP, the max speed as calculated by redline in 6th is going to be difficult to hit. The actual top speed is going to depend on HP and wind resistance etc.
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Idk kph in relation to MPH but what do you mean its maxed out? 6th gear bouncing off Rev limiter? Won't go past certain rpm? You buy the bike new or used, and have you ever gone to 280kph before on this bike?

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i dont believe their is any governor on any 600 in america... ive head because of the speed treaty in america our liter bikes have a governor at 186-187 and the bike shut down.... i am sure their are other reasons to why your bike didnt continue to clime to 173.. but youll probably stop accelerating around 160 even with a slip on a/f...
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And the flaming starts with no positive feedback. Guess this is not the forum i thought it would be helping fellow honda ethusiasts.

Im fully aware of the concequences, but like i said it was done a road with no traffic.
So thanks for assisting with not answering a simple technical question.
SMH. Some people do not know how to read.

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Im not to sure if the gearing has been changed as i bought the bike used.

In 6th gear it doesnt wana go pass 13000rpm at that speed. I stand to be corrected about the rpm, but there was enuf revs to go more but the bike just didnt allow it to.
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I would just guessing that at that point you are close to maxed and wind resistance was limiting factor. But **** i dont know.
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checking the sprocket teeth count will help, 43t is stock rear and not sure of the front off top of my head but you can manually count the teeth to see if its been changed. Could account for lost in top speed but increase in acceleration.

note: on the sprocket there should be 43t, 44t, 45t etc on it somewhere to show the count, might have to clean it to find it : /
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Thanx, will have it checked and feedback. You mention wind resistance, but on the same stretch my friend with cbr 05 manage to get 272
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Thanx, will have it checked and feedback. You mention wind resistance, but on the same stretch my friend with cbr 05 manage to get 272

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Maybe you're just fatter than your friend and the bike can't take your weight to the max? Read the fawking answer to your question and take it as is!

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I am thinking wind resistance myself like i had post on your last thread, even though i still put in my opinion about going that fast, i got my bike up to 120mph and the wind felt like it was going to rip me right off the bike and i was tucked as much as my bike and body would allow. So all in all there could be alot of things thats stopping you like drag, air temp, road surface and angle, fuel, your body weight, and what direction the wind is blowing.
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Maybe you're just fatter than your friend and the bike can't take your weight to the max? Read the fawking answer to your question and take it as is!
Yes im bigger than my friend with lots of muscle and will hit it you in your ma se poes

Thnx to those that answered my question.
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Max that baby out. But we will know what happened when you dont repost. So best of luck. 160-170 is all i seen and not a big fan of that.

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Yes im bigger than my friend with lots of muscle and will hit it you in your ma se poes

Thnx to those that answered my question.
Haha.."lots of muscle"..does that make you tough? Don't make hulk angry!
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Wind resistance is a huge factor in bikes, past a certain speed (don't remember what exactly) a bike is LESS aerodynamic then a car. So reaching speeds above 250+ in a car is much easier, just look at all the bikes that run the salt flats and see how they are designed. Hp and weight is one thing but physics have a lot to do with it too, not to mention the altitude you are running at and what the weather is like, a bike in say Colorado is gonna run much different then one in the coast of California.

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No comment.

Mine will do 200 though with a good slip-on and rim tape. Only after I take my mirrors off thought. Maybe I need to switch to some better HIDs.

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No comment.

Mine will do 200 though with a good slip-on and rim tape. Only after I take my mirrors off thought. Maybe I need to switch to some better HIDs.

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Hmm have you checked your exhaust bearings? I know those get worn out prematurely by trying to achieve great speeds.

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Hmm have you checked your exhaust bearings? I know those get worn out prematurely by trying to achieve great speeds.

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I took them out. They were leaking all over my water pump belt. I gained like 5 mph by doing that, you should try it.

Plus its my neons are SO much brighter with out them!!!
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Lots of muscle? Hahahaha who says that....


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God you sound like a squid. Check your damn front sproc. 16 is stock, If you have 15 thats your problem.


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I took them out. They were leaking all over my water pump belt. I gained like 5 mph by doing that, you should try it.

Plus its my neons are SO much brighter with out them!!!
What I did was replace the water pump belt with a chain, no tension problems. I might remove my floor mats for weight reduction next time I do a top speed run.

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Wow OP, guys like you make me want to... I love how you get on here to ask questions and just call people out the whole time. And don't call people noobs when you yourself only have 11 posts. GL hitting max speed tough guy!

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OP, you'll have to learn to read past the children's responses and glean the useful info.

That being said, be careful out there, you aren't a good enough rider to prepare for, or react to the situations that will eventually come up. I'm not saying that all of the responses you got are valid, a lot of them are from people that couldn't ride their way out of a paper bag, but others are from very experienced riders that have seen what can happen.

I love riding this bike as close to its limits as I can, on the track. Ride safe and gear up.
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