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Possible Internal Damage?

So I had just left the gas station, turned the corner and was gettin on it a little bit in first, went to go to 2nd and popped it into neutral. So it ended up banging off the rev limiter once, and being in a rush to get it back in gear and keep moving, I neglected to grab the clutch fully and it banged into 2nd pretty hard. Ever since it's felt like the bike is down on power. It will still get up and go but it just feels really labored in acceleration. RPM's dont climb faster than I'm gaining speed so I don't think it is damaged/worn clutch plates unfortunately.

Bike is an '03, 26k miles. I recently checked my valve clearances which involved removing the cylinder head cover, and when reinstalling the cover, I only applied hondabond to the half circle sections. I'm pretty sure that this gasket leaking wouldn't cause a loss of power, just oil seeping out (Not a compression issue).

After doing some searching, it seems I could have damaged my shifter forks when I didn't grab the clutch to shift up into 2nd.

Basically I'm looking for opinions on what kind of damage my actions might have caused. And if it is the shifter fork, how hard is it for a amateur with some tools to change out, and how much will I be looking at for ballpark costs?

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think you are just being paranoid
if you suffered damage from what you described, it would be very, very noticeable

noise, banging, clanking, really bad ticks
(bent valves, con rods and the likes would be the likely damage.)

and bent shift forks wouldnt cause a lack of power

it would cause shifting problems


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think you are just being paranoid
if you suffered damage from what you described, it would be very, very noticeable

noise, banging, clanking, really bad ticks
(bent valves, con rods and the likes would be the likely damage.)

and bent shift forks wouldnt cause a lack of power

it would cause shifting problems
My dad said I was probably being paranoid too. But I had been riding it every day the past week and to me it's noticeable. There are no shifting issues, I took it on a 200 mile trip (100 each way) for memorial day this weekend, and it seems like the midrange power starts about 1000 rpm higher (6k prior, 7k after) and still isnt as strong throughout the rev range as it was prior to my FUBAR. My clutch is pretty tight, I'm gonna try loosening the clutch cable to see if that improves it at all.

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clutch adjustment wont improve the power delivery either ......


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I know the people I ride with bounce off the rev limiter and do clutchless shifts all the time. I don't think what you did would have hurt anything.
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Say I'm not paranoid. Where would you look for issues?

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I know the people I ride with bounce off the rev limiter and do clutchless shifts all the time. I don't think what you did would have hurt anything.
It wasn't a clutchless shift. I missed the 1st to 2nd shift, ended up on neutral and pulled up into 2nd with no throttle and minimal if any clutch.

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Say I'm not paranoid. Where would you look for issues?

i wouldnt look for issues

as i said, IF you caused issues they wouldnt be some hidden power robbing things

your motor would sound like its in a friggen blender


you heard a loud scary noise

now you are seeking a problem

THERE IS NO PROBLEM

these bikes are not made of glass, they are built and designed to take what you gave it

may be not a whole lot, but once in a while is not going to kill it.

fwiw, thats just a standard miss shift ... missing second gear almost always results a a HORRIBLE clang when it goes back in gear ... even worse is when you hear the shift forks getting beat up a bit ;)


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It's mental. Kind of like a placebo effect

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Alright, I'll try to forget about it and see if it returns to normal. I was just worried because I'm normally careful and slow down and clutch in all the way to get it back in gear, but this time i just rushed it.

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Yep it happens from time to time and the noise it makes sure sucks to hear. All is well though, tenjin is correct.

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Say I'm not paranoid. Where would you look for issues?
This is the only thing i can think of, other than what Tenjin is saying.

you said that you filled up with some gas then you mis-shifted into N. then banged into second. my question is could you of gotten some bad gas? you could try draining your tank (siphon would work too), and putting fresh Clean gas in. or just ride it the way it is untill your almost empty, then put a putting strong dose of Dry Gas (proper bottle) and fill up with The Clean gas. This is what i do before i store my Snowmobile for summer or the RR for winter

However, i would probably think more along the lines of your ok, and just worried about your baby. In my experience, Water in your tank or a Clogged injector would cause Very VERy noticeable drop in power.

Good luck, and i hope everything works out and nothing is wrong


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my question is could you of gotten some bad gas?
That makes more sense than a anything else.
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I fill up at the same station every time. Shell a few minutes from my house, and I've been adding seafoam to the last couple tanks (prior to incident) to clean it out some.

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I fill up at the same station every time. Shell a few minutes from my house, and I've been adding seafoam to the last couple tanks (prior to incident) to clean it out some.
hrmm, i'm not sure then. i suppose you could ask the attendant or someone else you know always fills there, and ask if they had any problems. other than that i'm not sure what else it could be

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