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bike won't start....

Went to go for a lovely ride in the SoCal weather and got geared up, sat on the bike. Put key in, turn it to the on position, hear the fuel prime, press the ignition button.......and nothing.

The gauge cluster slightly dims like it is drawing power when I press the ignition/starter button.

Tested the battery, despite it being less than a month old....still full charge and currently on the tender until I figure this out.

Tested rectifier and stator according to the manual and got the proper readings.

Only thing I can think of would be blown fuse or something is wrong with my starter since the starter button seems to draw power when pressed.

I can't work on the bike until next week so I was hoping for some insight/ideas until then.

Oh, its a 2003 with 25k miles on it. Proper maintenance schedule etc etc.

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Did you hear the motor attempt to turn?

I would check all fuses even the main use under the seat. The RR had a problem with the starter button. I would take it apart and give it a good cleaning.

Curious what was the voltage reading on the battery?


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no, theres no sound nothing. Just hear me pushing a button and see the gauge cluster backlight dim slightly.

When do you want these battery readings? off? when i try to start? Battery started strong last week, and still seems strong. I'll test it when I take it out of the bike but I feel the culprit is the fuse or starter switch....and hopefully not the starter itself.


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no, theres no sound nothing. Just hear me pushing a button and see the gauge cluster backlight dim slightly.

When do you want these battery readings? off? when i try to start? Battery started strong last week, and still seems strong. I'll test it when I take it out of the bike but I feel the culprit is the fuse or starter switch....and hopefully not the starter itself.

Give it to us the reading both on and off. It very may be the start switch. Take it apart and have a look at it.

If the lights are dimming sounds like a weak battery!

Anyhow check that out and report back. If at all possible make a video of this.


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Well my headlights are off, they are hids so they are attached to a switch. I just say the gauge cluster dims,just a little but enough to notice, like it always has when I start the bike. Ill get readings asap.


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Well my headlights are off, they are hids so they are attached to a switch. I just say the gauge cluster dims,just a little but enough to notice, like it always has when I start the bike. Ill get readings asap.

those symptoms point to the battery.

Also have you recently disassembled the bike for any reason? When did you install the hids and switch?


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no offence but just making sure you bike is in neutral right. I've done that a time or two and then felt like a dumda$$ after.
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^ YEAH that would cause it to go dim for a second or so as well.

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Tilt sensor could be it too

Nah the bike wouldnt prime if the sensor wasnt working.


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I blew a headlight fuse and it made the bike not start. I cant remember if it still primmed or not but I looked over the fuses and thought they were good but sure enough I had missed the head light fuse.
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then nah it was priming... the BAS sensor is connected to the headlight harness. If the fuses was cut then the tank would not prime etc. No fuel=no start....

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Tried in neutral with kick stand down, tried in neutral and in gear with kick stand up.

When I get a chance, i'll put the battery back in and see whats up. I'm also going to check the starter relay for corrosion or if its blown etc.

I'll also double check all the fuses especially the headlights.

As for when I installed the HID's and the switch, easily 2 years ago.

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Knew also once the kill switch some how wouldn't let me turn bike on once. I had to play with it for like 5 min. Bike still primed just wouldn't start

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cool keep us posted... my money is on the battery.
If it was the battery wouldnt it at least try to turn over and just go 'wah wah wah....*dead' ?

I mean i'm got lights on, but not even an attempt to turn over.


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If it was the battery wouldnt it at least try to turn over and just go 'wah wah wah....*dead' ?

I mean i'm got lights on, but not even an attempt to turn over.

Nope not if the battery is too weak to even make an attempt. The lights would just dim etc.

Can you get us a video and a detail right on all your recent endeavors.

Have you tried bump starting it? Havent crashed it recently have you?


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Nope not if the battery is too weak to even make an attempt. The lights would just dim etc.

Can you get us a video and a detail right on all your recent endeavors.

Have you tried bump starting it? Havent crashed it recently have you?
No crashes (knock on wood), didnt try to bump. havent had a chance to reinstall battery. Finals next week so studying like crazy for that.


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Passed all my exams (5 mechanical engineering classes at UCSD oh my!) and finally had time to look back into this.

Charged the battery, everything powered up like before but this time the lights didnt dim (even a little like before so maybe my battery was a little low....but letting it sit for 2 weeks should kill/drain this new (less than 2 months old) battery). BUT! still no response from pressing the starter button.

Proceeded to check the 30A fuse and relay behind the battery, those were good.

Checked all the fuses on the left side, all were good.

Only thing I could think of was the cable between the starter button and the starter was bad. Long story short when I first got my bike, someone tried to steal it....they weren't able to so being the ******* wanna-be theives they were they cut my starter cable, ignition switch cable and broke the steering lock. I have no idea why they did this, besides being jealous poor assholes. I ended up re-soldering everything since they were clean cuts and heat shrunk everything back together and it has worked perfectly for the last 6 years.....until now.

Took it apart and it seems some of the solder finally gave on the starter cable. I re-soldered everything, crossed my fingers and VROOM!!!! we are back in business. Glad it wasnt anything serious. ALso at least gave me the opportunity to install the newer 04+ rectifier mount to replace the poorly designed 03 mount. Hopefully that alleviates the problem of starting when the bike is hot.

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