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View Poll Results: To rebuild AGAIN.. or not
Take the time once again to break it down and start over 32 64.00%
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DAMN the luck... :( Toasted my fresh motor this afternoon

Ok.. So spent the last 3 days bolting my bike all back together after its been down for over a year. I had it all done up to the plastics and fired her up.... Long story short I over tightened my effin Cam chain tensioner and experienced a catostraphic failure of the timing chain.. I got to hear that sweet sound of piston slaping the valves as my dreams and hard work ceased instantly SOO... as you can imagine I am bumming out. Should I attempt to rebuild or just part out? I love my bike and it has alot of personal history that really makes it the last loving thing my ex wife did for me before that went south. Opinons ?
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I voted for starting over and doing it again. You sound like you enjoyed it and *mostly* know what you're doing.

When my 1098S died if was a piston meets valve song as well, accelerating hard in 3rd gear. An amazing (horrible) sound.
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With the piston slapping the valve, will it damage the piston to the point of needing to be replaced or will it be ok?
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That depends on a LOT of factors. One way to find out, open it up. Mine had a small nick in it from the valves.
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Was it a stock rebuild? Why did you rebuild it? You can't really determine damage until its apart... May be fine, may be fubar..
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I say rebuild it if you have the patience and money man.. I hate the feeling of having hard work flushed away.


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Patience I have.. Money is slow to manifest but I can make it work but between this and my Rock rig I dont know if I have enough to stretch between the two.
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atleast not right away.. which is nausiating to say the least.
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If you weren't 2000 miles away, I'd buy the while thing off of you. I need a project bike.

I say rebuild it.

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I'd say scrap it and get a new bike if it didn't hold a personal and sentimental value to you.
So take it apart and rebuild it man.
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rebuild with an over bore, bigger pistons, and shave some of the block. then get some Ti rods!!!

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Do it again.

That's the weakest part of the whole system.

I WISH it were gears instead of a crappy timing chain and ridiculous tensioner.
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I voted for starting over and doing it again. You sound like you enjoyed it and *mostly* know what you're doing.
should be therapeutic
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Hell ya rebuild it... IDK about you but half the fun of owning a bike for me is working on it, but thats just because I'm a bit of a wrench monkey... I would love to have the oportunity to tear into my bike that deeply, but goodluck on whatever you decide to do with the bike!!

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i say rebuild. learn from the mistake, complete it, take a pic of the bike and the huge grin on your face looking back to this thread that inspired you to dust yourself off and go again.


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just rebuild it and never get over your x wife.
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Rebuild!!!!! Even if it takes you another year, save up for it and take it a day at a time. You've got a huge community here on Dot Net that wants to help you in any way possible so post up if you have any questions and get after it man. Parting out and getting rid of your bike should be last resort. Take some time to let it sit, clear your head and come back at it when you are in the right mindset. Rebuilding is all about overcoming adversity, you will love your bike and it will mean so much more to you when you know it is up and running because YOU. Make it happen man, don't pass it off!



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Rebuild with some juicy internals, oversized pistons, a bore out and get that thing screaming up to 20k rpm whoooo...........(I think I just wet myself a little)

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^ You would D ......I say rebuild

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Weigh out the pro's and con's and you will be good to go either way.
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Rebuild it. If you have some extra money and can't be without a bike. Pick up another engine, throw that in the bike and build up this one over time. Get it done up nicely, no need to rush at that point.

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Definitely go with the rebuild!
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redo it but make it better. Pimp that thing out engine wise with all the good chit

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Ok.. So started to tear it back down and What do I see? I good cam chain... Im half way thinkning I may have dropped a valve? Maybe the shop didnt get a retainer on correctly? wIll let you all know
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It's from the ex, rebuild it and then smash it through her window at high speed in a fireball of a crash
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Rebuild for sure. Nothing like knowing every little part that goes into something.
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Bump for update from op

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Cam chain guides were over lapped in the wrong direction causing a nice jump in timing. I also noticed
scoring in a cam journal and on the corresponding cam. I used 1800 grit sand paper and smoothed it out then bolted it all back together. Running like a top other than my fork seals are toast now too lol.

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good job getting it running again man.

how did you manage to bust up the fork seals though? too many pow-pow-power wheelies with hard landings?
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