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Bike wont start after putting back together.. :(

Okay, so I've had my racebike dismantled for a few weeks while I am safety wire-drilling and removing alot of street stuff. Here's what I did:

-Removed Horn (unplugged wires and left dangling)
-Removed Radiator Fan (unplugged @ stock connector)
-Removed/Reinstalled Radiator
-Unplugged MAP and sensor in the middle-top of the airbox cover (almost under the ECU)
-Unplugged upper injectors per service manual before realizing i didnt need to to just inspect the air filter
-Drained coolant and readded as much ethelyne glycol as my buddy left me after topping his bike off
-Mounted the BAS on the fairing stay
-Mounted PCIIIusb in side of fairing stay, and extended its power cable back to the battery
-Removed speedohealer and reconnected stock connectors

So I got everything off and put the antifreeze back in for the winter, reinstalled the subframe and battery, plugged everything back in, plugged in the MAP, plugged in each upper injector, closed the airbox, turned the key.. checked lights (pc3, gauge panel and fuel pump came on).. toggled kill switch off/on to make sure fuel pump hit again, and then went to start..

No dice..

The starter kicks over, sounding healthy, but no fire.. now I did this at like 11:30 last night so I didnt have time to d1ck around w/ it then, but I figured id ask anyone if they had any ideas I could try when I get home. My first guess would be that there's no fuel getting in, which leads me to those upper injectors, but I dunno.. Could it be something with the PC3 doing it as well? I plugged the fan back into the connector to see if it did it, and nothing as I suspected.. Im guessing the horn wouldnt do it either..

As I said, its kicking over like there's no fuel, which there is.. could I have a crimped line from the fuel tank maybe? Only thing not plugged into the fuel take is the overflow hose at this point..

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.. thx

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Did you unplug the pair valve or the map sensor? If it was the map sensor that may be your problem. If it was the pair valve then there should be no problem. Try this. Turn the kill switch to off before you turn the key. Then turn the key and hit the switch to run you should here the fuel pump prime. Or you can unscrew the line from the tank to upper injectors and then do the above. Use a suitable gas tank to catch fuel but that will tell you for sure if you are getting fuel.

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It was the MAP sensor I believe.. havent touched PAIR yet.. its an 03, and its the plug that mounts via screw/bolt on top of the throttle side of the airbox.. now that you mention it tho, i cant remember if i plugged the vacuum hose back into it or not.. hafta check tonight

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.....ever felt like a complete [email protected]$$?

I think i found the problem.. after doublechecking dynojet's website, and realize the little wire coming out of the pc3 harness is infact.. the *ground* wire.. so I gotta remind myself every time that i should read these things before hooking stuff back up.. needless to say, I hooked it to the + terminal..

Will test it tonight to see if fuses were blown or whatnot..

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I fell like a dumb a$$ every time I wake up.
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if its not ur PC3 you have the same problem as i, i am at the point of stripping my bike and puttin it together about 5 times now with no luck, i cant figure it out either, i dont have a PC3 though, and have the exact same symptoms as you. if you get any help or have any solutions feel free to PM me my bike is sittin there doing jack SH*T....
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if its not ur PC3 you have the same problem as i, i am at the point of stripping my bike and puttin it together about 5 times now with no luck, i cant figure it out either, i dont have a PC3 though, and have the exact same symptoms as you. if you get any help or have any solutions feel free to PM me my bike is sittin there doing jack SH*T....
IT's strange that you guys are having this problem. My cousin has a 2001 RC-51. After coming home from his last track day, he washed the bike, rolled it into the shop, and it never cranked again. We have stripped everything down to the subframe and we can't figure anything out. It turns over, the fuel pump is working, the spark plugs are giving it fire, but it will not crank! He just replaced the rectifier yesterday and no dice. We finally have given up and he is taking it to the shop tomorrow.
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GRREEAAATTT.. well my track bike is in pieces right now.. I just hope I dont have the same problems when I put her back together.. I just removed my PAIR system also.. Well Ill start putting her back together in a week or so.. Ill let you guys know things go.. Goodluck
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Well my problem wa, in fact, the PC3.. i went home, moved the PC3's ground wire off the + terminal and put it on the - terminal.. and the bike started right up, first time. I would just recommend grabbing your shop manual and going over every "reinstallation" section of anything you took apart..

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Well my problem wa, in fact, the PC3.. i went home, moved the PC3's ground wire off the + terminal and put it on the - terminal.. and the bike started right up, first time. I would just recommend grabbing your shop manual and going over every "reinstallation" section of anything you took apart..
We tried bypassing the PC3 alltogether and it still didn't fire up. WTF???
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We tried bypassing the PC3 alltogether and it still didn't fire up. WTF???
When you bypassed it, do you mean you completely unplugged it (injectors and tps) or just kept it from powering up?

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The PC3 plugs into the factory connector in the trunk of his RC and we just completely unplugged the factory connector from the PC and connected it like factory. dunno if that made sense but we had it bypassed and no juice.
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.....ever felt like a complete [email protected]$$?

I think i found the problem.. after doublechecking dynojet's website, and realize the little wire coming out of the pc3 harness is infact.. the *ground* wire.. so I gotta remind myself every time that i should read these things before hooking stuff back up.. needless to say, I hooked it to the + terminal..

Will test it tonight to see if fuses were blown or whatnot..
i too feel the state of dumbassiveness.... does this mean that my bike wont start because i dont have the ground wire from the brakelight hooked up?

im aimin' my headlights at tha treez...when i roll with my team / got my face in the breeze
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.....ever felt like a complete [email protected]$$?

I think i found the problem.. after doublechecking dynojet's website, and realize the little wire coming out of the pc3 harness is infact.. the *ground* wire.. so I gotta remind myself every time that i should read these things before hooking stuff back up.. needless to say, I hooked it to the + terminal..

Will test it tonight to see if fuses were blown or whatnot..



Do you mean the fuses on the bikes curcuitry(sp?), or fuses within the PC?
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Do you mean the fuses on the bikes curcuitry(sp?), or fuses within the PC?
I meant either.. i figured wiring the circuit up backwards (ground wire to positive, and the like) would've blown/fried something.. but alas, bike still runs fine and no blown fuses..

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Hey chkaotic....you are real close to me....I just moved up here to Grayson from Florida and have been looking for people to ride with.
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