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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 11-28-2005, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
 
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Help!!! My Baby is Sick!!

Hi guys, I wanted so see if I could get some imput from you all about the problems I'm having with my bike. I went out for a ride yesterday afternoon and I did what I always do, turn on the bike and let it idle for a bit while I put my gear on, after a couple of minutes the bike is at 180-190 degrees and I take off. I rode for 2 miles and came to a nice deserted straight so I decided to gun it, I hit redline on 2nd gear and quickly switched to 3rd and then began to slow down. I rode for about 2-3 miles and I begin to feel the bike starting to struggle. I get to a stop light and when the light turns green and I gave it gas the bike turned off on me and would not turn on for the life of me, I tried to re-start but no dice and then my battery died on me (03 model with the "great" charging system) I tried to push start it on 2nd gear and when I popped the clutch, the engine made a very unfamiliar sound and would not turn over so I stopped and called some friends to come and help me.

My friends showed up about 15 minutes later and one of my buddies (who knows bikes up and down) managed to push start it and when he did, the bike made some god-awful clanking sound and the shut it off right away.

We were brainstorming about what it could be and he thought it might something going on with the stator since that's where the noise seemed to come from. We trucked the bike back home and I began to strip her plastics and drained the oil (no metal shavings in there, thank god) and removed the stator cover, but I didn't see anything wrong in there, nothing is loose and there is nothing that seems to be rubbing anywhere.

Now my friend thinks that it might have spun a bearing, he doesn't think that I floated a valve nor toasted a cylinder because of where the noise was coming from, what do you guys think? Bike was not low on oil/antifreeze. The bike also has Honda's extended warranty. Is this crap covered by it? and if so, would the dealer give me crap about having a Jardine pipe on the bike?

I'm so upset, I baby that bike so much and it sucks that it's messed up right now, since I don't have hundreds of dollars to throw in it at the moment. I really hope the Warranty takes care of it.

Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want to miss anything. Thank you guys for any helpful comments you all can give.
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Sounds like a warranty item. The warranty should cover anything on the bike that is not a "normal wear" item. ie.. It doesn't cover brakes, clutch, fluids, tires. Anything else should be fair game. Don't let the stealership convince you of anything you don't know about.
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I hope dude, I'm kinda strapped for cash right now and cannot afford a high repair bill. I've never dogged my bike or anything, so I'm kinda upset that this happened :-(
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I feel for ya. I hate it when stuff like that happens, especially when youve taken good care of it. If the modified exhaust specifically caused the problem (which I doubt), they might make it difficult, otherwise, the warranty should cover it.

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It's kinda hard to put a finger on something like that without hearing it first hand. I'd test/charge the battery to rule that out and see if she turns over. Next check your battery cables and PIN connectors. If she turns over and sounds normal you can go from there. If you need to take it in a spun bearing will be covered under warranty unless they can prove negligence. A slip-on doesn't void the warranty.


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Did you try turning the motor over by hand using a rachet and socket on the end of the crank. Which is accessed through the round cover on the clutch casing?
Umm forget fooling with it and take it to the dealer, thats what warranties are for.
Please keep us posted.
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It's kinda hard to put a finger on something like that without hearing it first hand. I'd test/charge the battery to rule that out and see if she turns over. Next check your battery cables and PIN connectors. If she turns over and sounds normal you can go from there. If you need to take it in a spun bearing will be covered under warranty unless they can prove negligence. A slip-on doesn't void the warranty.
At first I thought the problem might have been the charing system, but not after we push-started the bike and it sounded horrible.
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Did you try turning the motor over by hand using a rachet and socket on the end of the crank. Which is accessed through the round cover on the clutch casing?
Umm forget fooling with it and take it to the dealer, thats what warranties are for.
Please keep us posted.
That was my next step, but I decided against it. Don't want to fack it up more than it already is. Bike is going to the dealership this weekend so they can see what's wrong. I'm crossing all my fingers so they don't give me any BS about this not being covered. Sucks having to wait, but that's the closest time I could coordinate with a friend with a truck to take it in.
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Try Dekon suggestion to turn the motor over manually then.


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the slip on wont void the warrenty.... but there is a catch to that

if the problem your having is in related in any-way, shape or form. the dealer can say it was cuz of the pipe for the malfunction. then this is when the warranty would be voided by the dealer. and with dealers today I wounldn't chance it, your better for with putting the stock pipe back on.
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the slip on wont void the warrenty.... but there is a catch to that

if the problem your having is in related in any-way, shape or form. the dealer can say it was cuz of the pipe for the malfunction. then this is when the warranty would be voided by the dealer. and with dealers today I wounldn't chance it, your better for with putting the stock pipe back on.
I know man, I might end up doing that just to be on the safe side. Thanks for the advice.
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the slip on wont void the warrenty.... but there is a catch to that

if the problem your having is in related in any-way, shape or form. the dealer can say it was cuz of the pipe for the malfunction. then this is when the warranty would be voided by the dealer. and with dealers today I wounldn't chance it, your better for with putting the stock pipe back on.
But there in lies the question. How does a slip-on cause a motor failure. It can't. There is no way they can relate a slip-on to the motor failure, if that's the problem. I wouldn't waste my time putting the stock pipe back on. If the dealer gives you $hit over the pipe take it to another dealer or call Honda directly.


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My friend that helped me out with this, knows a couple of employees at my local dealership and he talked to them about and they didn't think it would be a problem, but they were going to find out and get back to him. I'm kind of stuck dealing with that dealership since the closest one is about one hour drive away. I just hope that my bud can pull enough strings here for me that they can just fix it without any hassle.

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When you took off the stator cover wouldn't that automatically voided your warranty?
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When you took off the stator cover wouldn't that automatically voided your warranty?
I don't know what you're talking about, I've never taken off the stator cover. ;-)
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I think something let go in the motor. Glad you have a warranty.
What year is your bike and how many miles?
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I think something let go in the motor. Glad you have a warranty.
What year is your bike and how many miles?
Bike is an 03 model, less than 9k miles. Have extended warranty
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sucks dude I feel for ya!
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Well, bike is at the dealership getting looked at. They are going to call me later on the week with their diagnosis.
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Well, here's an update for whomever is intrested. After almost 1 month a the dealership, I called them yesterday to ask the status on my bike. The guy I spoke with told me that the repairs ARE going to be covered by the warranty (wohooooooo!!). When I asked him what happened and what caused the malfunction he said he couldn't tell me (I guess he's not the one working on my bike). He did say that they are going to put a new crank and some others parts in it, but that he still had to get a list together and order them so it might be 2 more weeks before I can finally ride my baby around..... man I'm jonesing to ride :-( at least it's been a little cold over here for the last couple of weeks.
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Crap, this makes me want to get an extended warranty for my 05 model now. I would shiat myself if my engine went out. Good luck man, hope you get it back soon.
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wow glad to hear it's gonna be covered....thats always a plus...let us know what actually happened to your baby. gl man




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Crap, this makes me want to get an extended warranty for my 05 model now. I would shiat myself if my engine went out. Good luck man, hope you get it back soon.
I'd recomend that you do bud, the way I look at it those $500 buy a lot of peace of mind.
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wow glad to hear it's gonna be covered....thats always a plus...let us know what actually happened to your baby. gl man
Once I get to talk to the actual mechanic doing the work, I'll let you guys know what happened.
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Well, just as an update... I got my bike back this past Saturday..... after almost 2 1/2 months in the shop.... sumary is: New crank, extensive engine work, and misc bits and pieces of work done... took her out for a short ride Saturday, felt great after being without her for so long... Mechanic told me to take it easy on her and treat her just as she was new and break the engine in slowly for the first 600 miles. I'm so happy.... :-)
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Glad you got her back and thanks for letting us know what the problem was. It sounds like they rebuilt the entire low-end for you.


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thats crazy... did they give u the old parts...?

i never heard of something like this happening to an rr...

what worries me is u got the 03 (so do i)

and i wheelie it like a mad man.

im aimin' my headlights at tha treez...when i roll with my team / got my face in the breeze
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Glad you got her back and thanks for letting us know what the problem was. It sounds like they rebuilt the entire low-end for you.
Yeah, that's what the mechanic said. It took them forever, but I'm glad I finally got her back.

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thats crazy... did they give u the old parts...?

i never heard of something like this happening to an rr...

what worries me is u got the 03 (so do i)

and i wheelie it like a mad man.
Nope, they didn't give me back any of the old parts.
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I've never understood why it takes sooooo long at the dealer to get your bike back. When I had my little incident, my ins co. had my check ready and cut 6 days later. 6 weeks later my bike was finished. But I bought the ext warr. on my 05 for 250 so I am glad I got it after reading your post.
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