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Overheating Tribal! Please help

So a few weeks back while at a stop I looked down at the gauges and noticed that temp was pretty high. Something like 240ish. So I look under me and notice that I was leaking coolant. Mildly dripping. Concerned I took her home immediately (I was riding around the neighborhood). By the time I got home, it was like at 252 and blinking.

So I finally got around to taking both mids off and pinpointed the problem to a loose clamp on one of the left hoses. I loosened the clamp and removed to hose to inspect it. You know, make sure it's really just loose and not torn on the opposite side where I can't see. Looks fine, I put the hose back on and tighten the clamp. After reading the manual, I topped off the coolant reserve tank with the required ethylene glycol antifreeze back to the right level. Turn her on, let her warm up a little, give'r a little gas to get the pressure going and look around to check for any leaks. Nothing. After warming up and steading around 190, I take her around the block to get the fluids going and overall test her out. Then I notice the temp continue to rise. 207, 208, 209, 210, etc. It slowly crept it's way back up to 250. At this point, I am like WTF! Once back home I look around, no coolant leaking anywhere (mids are still off so I did a thorough check). COMPLETELY BAFFLED, I check the manual—No help. So here I am, asking the pro's who know best!

All that said, did I miss something? Is there a fuse somewhere that I should have reset? Other than taking it to the dealer, I don't know what else to do. Anyone have any suggestion as to what to check next? I know that this has "Noob" written all over it but I would GREATLY appreciate ANY help! Thanks in advance guys!
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Is Your Fan Coming On???
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Check your fan, Mine got stuck once and needed a little push. Has been fine since
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if the fan isn't working check the fuse for it!
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since you dont know how long it was leaking check the level of the radiator. not just the overflow tank. if its level appears full then run the bike with the radiator cap off and let it warm up to where the thermostat would normally open (about 180). if the level in the radiator drops then add in the radiator until you cant add anymore. if it doesnt drop on its own then keep squeezing and releasing the hoses looking for air bubbles at the radiator fill spout. if you have to do this you will probably have to squeeze and let it drop a little, then add, then squeeze and let it drop again, and add, and keep doing this until it doesnt drop anymore.

and yes check the fan. does it cool off at highway speeds? if not then definitely use the above method. if so its probably the fan. thermostat could also be stuck closed

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Same thing happened to mine. I had to give the fan a little kickstart also. BTW, you can't reset fuses, but you can replace them. lol just bustin' your balls a little.
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Good question. The answer is NO. I checked the connection and its plugged in just right. I also just checked the fuse and it's still good. The only thing I am thinking might be is the plug—It has coolant all over it. Maybe it shorted or something. If it would have shorted, wouldn't that have also have taken out the fuse? I'm going to have thoroughly check the fan tomorrow when the sun comes out. I have a feeling that might be the problem. Thanks guys!

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yes it would have just blown the fuse if it shorted. thats what fuses are for lol. let it get to 220 and try spinning the fan with your finger. also see if its making noise like its trying to spin.
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It was the fan. I gave it a little push and it started spinning, sorta. For some reason it keeps getting stuck. I think it's a little to high up and keeps getting stuck. I'm going to try to take it apart tomorrow and see if I can fix it. Some of the screw posts don't seem to line up while other misc little things here seem bent. I'll take pictures in the day so you guys can see what I mean.

I bought the bike used, but the guy I bought it from said everything worked fine. I'm thinking he probably had some work done to it from an accident or something. I'm just a little upset I am just now finding out (bought it in Sept). Anyhow, Thanks guys for all your help and suggestions.
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if you can get ahold of one, use a test light and unplug the power for the fans and hook the gator clip on the test light up to a good ground on your bike on probe the power wire for the fan, if the light comes on ur fan is getting power, if not..check the fuse first, if that's good, make sure the ground going to the fan is good

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no.... sometimes electric fans just stick. if it doesnt fix itself by turning it a few times by hand while its trying to turn on its own then i wouldnt recommend taking it apart. find a used one or, unfortunately, give your stealership a visit.
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You still need to make sure you don't have air in the system. Keep a close eye on your reservior level over the next couple of weeks.

You can also try spraying WD-40 into the fan motor itself. Maybe just moisture causing a little rust.


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Alright guys. Here's a pic of what is going on. The fan isn't suppose to be touching like that is it? I'm gonna hit the stealership in a bit to see how much for a new one will be. I can probably bend back that mounting arm, but that still won't fix the wobble the fan seems to have.

As far as the air in the system, It must have, because after topping off the fluids yesterday, today it was back down to low. Thanks for the heads up tho RedRider.

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You still need to make sure you don't have air in the system. Keep a close eye on your reservior level over the next couple of weeks.

You can also try spraying WD-40 into the fan motor itself. Maybe just moisture causing a little rust.
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Alright guys. Here's a pic of what is going on. The fan isn't suppose to be touching like that is it? I'm gonna hit the stealership in a bit to see how much for a new one will be. I can probably bend back that mounting arm, but that still won't fix the wobble the fan seems to have.

As far as the air in the system, It must have, because after topping off the fluids yesterday, today it was back down to low. Thanks for the heads up tho RedRider.

There. That's better. Now I can see something.

Isn't this bike under warranty? Close to what? The blades to the fan shroud? Yes. It's supposed to be that close. How is the clearance to the back of the radiator?

Oh, make sure your rubber shroud around the motor isn't hitting the fan blades. And forget about the WD-40. That's a totally enclosed fan. You can't spray the windings.



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no that bracket is bent and is not supposed to be touching the outer ring of the fan. thats whats keeping it from spinning. that entire thing spins not just the blades

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no that bracket is bent and is not supposed to be touching the outer ring of the fan. thats whats keeping it from spinning. that entire thing spins not just the blades
Oh yeah. I see what you're saying. That's not a shroud around the blades like I was thinking. And that bracket does look tweaked. Has this bike been crashed before?


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Questions. HOW did you get it to show up in the thread like that? I still haven't mastered that yet. Anyhow, the mounting arm seems to be touching the fan shroud. If you look closely, it seems to have been pushed back causing the backing to lift off the bronze fan motor. here, let show you.
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Questions. HOW did you get it to show up in the thread like that? I still haven't mastered that yet. Anyhow, the mounting arm seems to be touching the fan shroud. If you look closely, it seems to have been pushed back causing the backing to lift off the bronze fan motor. here, let show you.
Just copy the "Hotlink for forums (1)" with the [IMG}ww.imagshack.us.jpg{/IMG] tags.


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yeah that thing is fecked up. bend that bracket back if you can
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I did bend the bracket, but it still came out sorta jacked. I wasn't getting that "factory" fit. I ended going to the stealership. $83.19 for the shroud and the fan. THe motor was an additional $163 (i didn't get it). That much less cash to spend on gifts for the girlies I guess.

WHile on the floor, I was checking out the 1000RR's. Actually, they only had one. But does anyone know why the 600's have the fan on the left and the 1000 on the right? I guess it really doesn't matter as long as it blows air... Anyhow, I'll update you guys next week when I get the new parts in. Oh, and thx redrider for the posting tip!
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wow you spent that much because it just didnt fit right or was it still not working? i woulda found a way to get that thing on there if it just wasnt fitting right lol
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I took apart the fan, the motor and the shroud. Bent the shroud around to make it fit as best as I could but when I put the motor and the shroud back together It still wasn't fitting right. I just don't have the proper tools to bend back parts the way they should be. I got this cheapo durabuilt tool set from Target for like $20—It gets the parts off and back on, just wasn't meant for anything more. Anyhow, the fan is plastic and it was oblong, so definitely need to be replaced.
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well i hope that solves everything. keep an eye on that overflow tank and the level in the radiator though since it was leaking.
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