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Throttle grip at WOT...

When I crank the throttle all the way open, the bike won't pull as hard as when I only twist the throttle a little bit. This mostly happens when the bike is cold. Is this normal or do I need to get the FI tuned? BTW I have a stock exhaust.
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its normal. its just like cars. the engine needs to be warmed up before cranking it. they made it like that so ppl like yourself and others wont blow the engine. its not good for the engine to take it all the way up at WOT when the bike hasnt warmed up yet.
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Why are you WFO when the bike is cold?

Signatures are stupid.
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WOT isn't bad for the bike when it's warming up. It's the high revvs that kill it.
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Wide Open Throttle - Not F'n good on cold motor regardless of RPMs.

Signatures are stupid.
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What about when it's warm. Does it still do it? My bike is having a similar problem. I got held up on the diagnosis for more than a week now thanks to the flu. Hopefully tomorrow I'll feel like getting on it.


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Wide Open Throttle - Not F'n good on cold motor regardless of RPMs.
What do you figger it'll do?
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You are adding extra load on a motor that is not up to full operating temp. Ass the motor warms, things are expanding... the block, bearings, valves etc... Undue stress can and will shorten the life of your motor.

NRR - Can the PCIII use the accelerator pump from DynoJet. I knwo the USB can.
If yo snap to WOT, more air than fuel is being introduce immediately. The accelerator pump is supposed to put more fuel in early to counter act that (ON A WARM MOTOR)

Signatures are stupid.
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on a side note from the cold engine issue... what rpms are you starting at when you crank it? cause you said something about not being in high rpms. well, if you arent very high in the rpms on such a high revving engine as this and you crank it wide open its gonna have lag. downshift first or just be higher on the tach if you wanna get your head pulled off when you crank it. this is just common sense lol

now i can just see you takin it to about 9 grand and openin it up and 12 oclockin it
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You are adding extra load on a motor that is not up to full operating temp. Ass the motor warms, things are expanding... the block, bearings, valves etc... Undue stress can and will shorten the life of your motor.

NRR - Can the PCIII use the accelerator pump from DynoJet. I knwo the USB can.
If yo snap to WOT, more air than fuel is being introduce immediately. The accelerator pump is supposed to put more fuel in early to counter act that (ON A WARM MOTOR)
Nope. You have to have the PCIII USB model.

It depends on the sensitivity you have it set at. If you have it set at 75% it kicks in later then if you have it set at 90%. The most important thing is to start with a good map. If you have a rich spot it's only going to get worse with the AC enabled.

I'm not fully convinced on the AP just yet. I had the AP enabled for awhile and played around with the settings but it's really difficult to tell with the butt dyno. I turned it off just recently to eliminate that as a possibility.



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now i can just see you takin it to about 9 grand and openin it up and 12 oclockin it
That's when the fun begins :D
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on a side note from the cold engine issue... what rpms are you starting at when you crank it? cause you said something about not being in high rpms. well, if you arent very high in the rpms on such a high revving engine as this and you crank it wide open its gonna have lag. downshift first or just be higher on the tach if you wanna get your head pulled off when you crank it. this is just common sense lol

now i can just see you takin it to about 9 grand and openin it up and 12 oclockin it
I just got a hilarious visual from that. "Hey ya'll watch this!"
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now if you have the riding expertise of the guy in newredrider's avatar then this wouldnt be a problem.... lol (that is amazing by the way) but there isnt a single person on this forum with that skill lol
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now if you have the riding expertise of the guy in newredrider's avatar then this wouldnt be a problem.... lol (that is amazing by the way) but there isnt a single person on this forum with that skill lol
That is me...


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that was more of an exageration of "wow thats impossible nobody can do that" than actually meaning it
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That's max biaggi if im not mistaken
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Supposed to be Max. Max was sick that day. I sat in on a hush, hush basis so it wouldn't upset our sponsors. I just wasn't used to his throttle response and almost looped it.

DarkCBR, are you still having problems or not?


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now if you have the riding expertise of the guy in newredrider's avatar then this wouldnt be a problem.... lol (that is amazing by the way) but there isnt a single person on this forum with that skill lol
And if by skill you mean getting a wheelie wrong on the most violent machine ever built and then overcompensating with the rear brake and subsequently destroying the front end, then you are correct...

BTW, since he already let the cat outta the bag Newredrider is actually Max Biaggi's alias... but he's much more manly when in the states :)
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no by skill i mean having the state of mind to keep your head straight to correct for a beyond 12 oclock and almost sideways mistake at probably close to triple digit speeds or above. at first glance it looks like he was even level headed enough to get back on the gas to bring it down soft but now that i look closer, its in slow motion so yes he probably did destroy the front lol but still
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Yep, youll bog it down doing that. Even when its warmed up it still bogs if you ride like that. Ride the TAC with the throttle and youll have the front end skyward in no time.

Feed it, dont force it.
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And if by skill you mean getting a wheelie wrong on the most violent machine ever built and then overcompensating with the rear brake and subsequently destroying the front end, then you are correct...

BTW, since he already let the cat outta the bag Newredrider is actually Max Biaggi's alias... but he's much more manly when in the states :)
Good one!


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I figure you guys are right in that it is normal. Rock on.
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normal but not good. warm that thing up
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normal but not good. warm that thing up
This is what I do now.
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DarkCBR, are you still having problems or not?


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No, it's all good. thanks
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I feel dumb for asking this but what dose WOT mean?
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Wide Open Throttle

You gotta learn sometime! [;-)


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lol Thanks man
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