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Possible bad starter ?

My 05 rr with about 51k mile.
Bike starts fine when cold.
But after the ride ,let's says it fully warms up, when I turn it off .. Give it about 2 minutes and try starting it , itll act like it has a dead battery. Because the clock restarts.

So I'll have to wait about 5 minutes or so. Then it'll re start.

I know my battery is good, can it be the relay? Or a bad starter from wear and tear??




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I don't see that a worn starter would cause the clocks to reset.
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I would check the fuses. One of them might be on the verge of blowing.

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I would check the fuses. One of them might be on the verge of blowing.
Fuse on the verge of blowing? Do you know anything about how a fuse works? Look up fuses and what they do on Wiki before you keep giving out advice like this. Don't mean to sound, well, mean, but this makes no sense.

Nutty, start looking at your charging system, especially your stator. Thinking it's starting to go; grab the manual and go through the tests then get back to us.

How do you know for sure it's not the battery?

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I know exactly how a fuse works. If the filament burned but possibly not all the way through. Intermittent power can still flow. I have seen this happen before just not on a motorcycle.

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Could be a starter hot siezing actually. If it doesn't turn it will drop your battery voltage to levels that would cause a dash reset and also a clicking relay.

If you can, I'd try to borrow a known good starter and try that. If you have had issues in the past and cranked your bike heavily its likely you damaged your starter motor.
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I'd expect the fuse to blow if the starter was siezing.
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I'd expect the fuse to blow if the starter was siezing.
What leads you to believe that the starter is fused?

That 30a fuse is for the rest of the bike... Not the starter. A 30 would pop the second you pressed the start button.
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I'm thinking it's a bad starter , cause that thing has been craked a lot.

I'll go and double check from ground one. And no can't be a fuse. All been check and replaced. I'm currently using a 8cell motydesign battery that's reads over 13 volt. I'll swap it out and see if that'll make a difference.




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Have you had the clutch cover off? Maybe you didn't get the idler gears set properly and they are binding up
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Yes I had it off. But why would it still start when cold.

Very similiar to this thread

https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=223206




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Just took the bike to get tested, battery and regulator passed.
They weren't able to test the starter motor... But I'm now assuming that's the culprit ..!




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Hey man, are you any further along to solving this? I just started having a similar issue today, but mine is not starting at all

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Hey man, are you any further along to solving this? I just started having a similar issue today, but mine is not starting at all

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Not quite yet!
I've taken out the starter motor and cleaned it,

It still doing it when hot,but I may know what tho. The possible starter cable , only like 6 wire are in tact at the eye bolt. So I'm going to repalce that cable. Part should be here soon. I'll let u know if that's it.




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UPDATE!!


with the nEW STARTER CABLE, the bikes has been starting fine now when HOT.


resolve.
theres once in ..while when it hiccups a bit. and I'm thinking it may just be the starter starting to wear out . but for now it'll do. i have a spare starter motor bought used from ebay and will likely throw that in this winter :)

hope this helps anyone running into tho "not starting when hot"




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