2005 600rr won't start and I've already tried a search for this :)
Hi all. I'm in a complete bind here and after scouring the depths of the web, I have to ask a question that has no doubt been asked before, but countless searches reveal countless answers, so I'd thought I'd see if anyone has had exactly the same problem.
Basically my buddy took over his brother's 2005 600rr and brought it back to street use from the track. His brother rode it hard and put it away wet, so there was a lot of cleaning. When I took it my goal was to get the rear indicators wired back up, clean it up (clean and adjust chain, remove grease and corrsion etc), oil change, and fix all the broken plastic mounts from multiple crashes (headlight cowl, etc).
The bike seemed to run without issue when he brought it to me, and throughout the time I had it, it always ran fine. It sat in my garage for about 3 weeks after it was fixed before he picked it up. Over that time, I started it and it ran with no issues. The battery stayed on a battery tender the entire time and remains very strong.
The day before he picked it up a mutual friend came over and I started the bike, and again it ran fine. When my buddy came to pick it up, we started it, and it seemed a little off, just barely, but I just attributed it to
being cold, and we only ran it for a second. We wheeled it to his trailer and he towed it home. The next day he called me and asked if I had been playing around with the engine. He said he took it off his trailer, and drove it up the driveway, but it had next to no power, and eventually died. He was never able to get it running again. When we try to start it, it cranks, but it never catches. I have absolutely no concerns that he did something to it after picking it up. If he had, he wouldn't have called, and he's not a tinkerer. He pays people to do that.
I have checked all the fuses, including the PGM-FI in the rear. The fuel pump primes, and when I pulled the line off the fuel rail it shot out a health dose of gas during the priming stage and more when I hit the starter. I've checked the kickstand circuit (circuit closed when the stand is down, open when its up), BAL, and neutral position switch. I've drained all the gas, and replaced it,(just in case).
Every so often it just barely chugs like it wants to start but it never gets to that point.
Everything points to some type of fuel starvation. Almost like the fuel line is pinched (but again, fuel comes out quite nicely), and when our friend came over the day before, it used up almost all the fuel after the pinch and then the next day it ran dry. That what it seems like.
There is a vague smell of raw fuel from the exhaust, but just barely. Almost like someone wiped the inside with a gas soaked rag 30 mins ago. You can smell it, but not like you would if it was a flooded carb'd bike. The only thing I haven't checked are the injectors for a clog, which would be unlikely I'm thinking, and the plugs, simply because I can't imagine all 4 going at once, and I'd think with one, or even two gone, even if it didn't start, there would at least be a little detonation. Same goes for the injectors, which leads me to believe it's either before the fuel rail, (but there's fuel from the hose so it would have to be in the fuel rail, or at the coil or earlier, but it just seems like one hell of a coincidence for the coil to just up and go from one day to the other. And if it did, would it really chug for a bit, or wouldn't it die completely and never start again.
Everything to me suggests fuel starvation, but I'm plum out of ideas. Needless to say, while hes a very good
friend, this is a case of: it worked when I dropped it off, and now it doesn't. So regardless of what happened, I still need to fix it, coincidence or not.
As for the MIL, when I turn the key with the kickstand down or up, the FI like turns on and stays red, full stop. If I jump the connectors in the tail, I get 2 short flashes, then 9 flashes. In my repair manual that suggests that there is no issue now, but in its memory there was a PGM-FI fuse fault and battery fault in the past. Both the fuse and the battery are fine. In the fault code sticky thread the codes are something different but are apparently both EON faults, not DNS faults. Also its worth noting, that regardless of if the kickstand is up or down, the bike still cranks. I only put that in there because on my Kawi, if the kickstand is down and you try to start it, its like the key isn't even in.
Like I said, I know there are a lot of do not start threads, but I'm just really hoping something that I just
wrote as jumped out at someone as something familiar.