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Crank, weird noise, no start 2008

Hey guys, have been searching but haven't found my issue.

Bike was running fine (with clicking sound in front, but I think one of my headers was loose - not the issue I don't think) but was leaking oil from a crack in right side clutch cover. Ordered new one and replaced the cover, refilled with oil. As I replaced, the idler cog and starter cog fell out, I just replaced (with both wave washer and other in correct order) linking the starter, idler and crankshaft cogs together. As I did this, I had to rotate the crankshaft cog counterclockwise by 1 tooth (would this make a huge difference?). I now go to start the bike, fuel pump starts up, lights good, dash good but there is a weird sound coming from the rear of the engine (sounds like an old mosquito lamp electric sound but much faster, perhaps starter). I start up and it cranks but doesn't start. After a few try-starts, Fi light comes on.

I think it may be the starter or tiny bit of slack when crankshaft was rotated? Maybe the cam position sensor? But it was running perfectly fine before I replaced the case, and the wiring looks fine. Any ideas?

Battery good.
Gas good.
Fuel pump primes.
Cranks.
Bank sensor is bypassed.
Bike is in neutral, KS down, 'killswitch' is set to start.
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you probably installed the crank position sensor in the new case backwards.

without crank position you won't get a spark.
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you probably installed the crank position sensor in the new case backwards.

without crank position you won't get a spark.
Hmm, is this even possible? It looks like (from pictures) there's really only one way to install it. I'm about 90% sure I installed it the correct direction. Would this cause the starter to make that electric/clicking noise right at the end of the fuel pump prime?
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well, given that you replaced the cover, and now you have a no-spark condition, the ONLY thing in that cover is the CPS. so either you fucked up the install of it, or you forgot to plug it in?

only one thing has changed here.




i have no idea what noise you're talking about. pretty tough to describe a noise
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well, given that you replaced the cover, and now you have a no-spark condition, the ONLY thing in that cover is the CPS. so either you fucked up the install of it, or you forgot to plug it in?

only one thing has changed here.




i have no idea what noise you're talking about. pretty tough to describe a noise
Here's a video:

I turned key to on, off, on, then pressed ignition. You can hear the clicking (I think from starter) as fuel pump primes.

Could a one-tooth counter clockwise turn of the crankshaft have caused this? I never unplugged cable but I'll check that again. So install wrong or wire connection is broken somewhere then?

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probably installed wrong.

turning the crank makes zero difference whatsoever to anything. everything is timed off the crank, you can turn it all you want.



no idea on the sound. use your ears to find the component that's buzzing.
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probably installed wrong.

turning the crank makes zero difference whatsoever to anything. everything is timed off the crank, you can turn it all you want.



no idea on the sound. use your ears to find the component that's buzzing.
Problem has fixed itself..

Thanks so much for your time guys! -- Sorry to have wasted it :/

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If you are having trouble installing parts you might look into a repair manual. It has saved me more than a few times and helped save some money; which is always nice.
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