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Odometer rollback?

Here's the deal, I bought a bike at a salvage place to rebuild. When i got it the gauge cluster was broke and the only working thing was the odometer, which read right around 12900. My buddy gave me a set of gauges and they're readying 23k, and I need to know how to roll these back to where they should be. thanks.
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This place can do it:
http://www.bluegauges.com/mileages.htm

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well i was l;ooking to do it myself, but i may consider them. thanks
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How do they do this? Are they hacking a chip on the board? Or is this some plug-in honda thing?
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How do they do this? Are they hacking a chip on the board? Or is this some plug-in honda thing?
I honestly don't know. It's a digital odometer, so it's not gonna be as simple as cracking it open and rolling it back. I assume they have a device to hook up to it that can reprogram it with a different mileage or something.

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How do they do this? Are they hacking a chip on the board? Or is this some plug-in honda thing?
I would say the latter.
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well, i know on the 636's you can use a 9v battery and roll and miles off. anyone know a trick like this?
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well, i know on the 636's you can use a 9v battery and roll and miles off. anyone know a trick like this?
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The legal way of taking care of this is to get a statement from the DMV showing actual miles, versus what the new cluster shows. Manipulation of an ODO is not legal in many municipalities, paid service, or done by yourself. Check with your local DMV before you spend your cash on such a service. If it's legal, there, go for it, just be aware.
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im curious in knowing what a 9v battery has that can rollback miles
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probably the voltage or amperage that sends a signal to reverse the miles.
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I believe it is an eeprom on the board that stores the miles(Electronically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory).

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so any electronics geniuses want to take a look and figure out how to roll back miles? or how to erase and put some back on?
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ill do it any one wants to spare me the gauges i am already down two due to R&D for the gear indicator

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The legal way of taking care of this is to get a statement from the DMV showing actual miles, versus what the new cluster shows. Manipulation of an ODO is not legal in many municipalities, paid service, or done by yourself. Check with your local DMV before you spend your cash on such a service. If it's legal, there, go for it, just be aware.
You are absolutely right..In fact it is a federal offense
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well, for those of us who re doing it for legit purposes, anyone know how to adjust?
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well, for those of us who re doing it for legit purposes, anyone know how to adjust?
so would changing to gauges to show lower miles be illegal? what about gauges with lower miles and rolling it up to show more miles. any way you look at it you cant get caught if your trying to be legit about it all the dmv knows it the miles when the title is transfered and maybe when the tags are renewed.
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so would changing to gauges to show lower miles be illegal? what about gauges with lower miles and rolling it up to show more miles. any way you look at it you cant get caught if your trying to be legit about it all the dmv knows it the miles when the title is transfered and maybe when the tags are renewed.
exactly, the only time you'll get caught is if you're trying to screw someone over
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anyone take a whack at this?
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it would be eeprom, and you cannot "roll back" the mileage by adding a voltage. You would need to erase the entire eeprom first and then you can reprogram it with whatever value you want. Youd first need to find out how the data is stored by reading from the eeprom before doing anything...
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I'm not sure how bike odometers work since I've only owned a bike for about 2 weeks now. but If its anything like a car odometer then its not the hard.

if its like a car odometer this method will work...I've done this on cars that I sold after putting brand new crate motors and completly restoring the car.

-first your going to need to go buy a cheap power drill, one that you wouldn't give a rats ass if the motor burned out(cause it usually does)
-second find a bit the fill fit just loose in the end of the mileage cable hole of the back of the odometer...it has to be loose enough were you can put a layer or two of duct tape on it and still be able to stick it in there...
-third stick to bit in the hole in the back of the odometer and makes sure it is extremely snug
-four set up a stand of anytime that will hold the drill and the odometer in place...and when I say hold in place I mean sterdier than a rock. the way I've done it was I made a wooden frame that the actual holding place could be moved around to fit the cluter and the drill and the held in place by C-clamps.
-fifth and final step is after setting up everything and your ready to go put the drill in reverse and tape the trigger down so the drill keeps going, because this takes a long time to do, its cheap and easy, but it takes about 1 day for 1000 miles and about 1 week for 10000 miles, but you always want to check out in at least 5,6 times a day.

and it that does work for bikes.....well I guess you have the method for turning back car odometers now....
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yeah, i've seen people do that on older cars, but bikes and newer cars are all electronic
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I'm not sure how bike odometers work since I've only owned a bike for about 2 weeks now. but If its anything like a car odometer then its not the hard.

if its like a car odometer this method will work...I've done this on cars that I sold after putting brand new crate motors and completly restoring the car.

-first your going to need to go buy a cheap power drill, one that you wouldn't give a rats ass if the motor burned out(cause it usually does)
-second find a bit the fill fit just loose in the end of the mileage cable hole of the back of the odometer...it has to be loose enough were you can put a layer or two of duct tape on it and still be able to stick it in there...
-third stick to bit in the hole in the back of the odometer and makes sure it is extremely snug
-four set up a stand of anytime that will hold the drill and the odometer in place...and when I say hold in place I mean sterdier than a rock. the way I've done it was I made a wooden frame that the actual holding place could be moved around to fit the cluter and the drill and the held in place by C-clamps.
-fifth and final step is after setting up everything and your ready to go put the drill in reverse and tape the trigger down so the drill keeps going, because this takes a long time to do, its cheap and easy, but it takes about 1 day for 1000 miles and about 1 week for 10000 miles, but you always want to check out in at least 5,6 times a day.

and it that does work for bikes.....well I guess you have the method for turning back car odometers now....
Hell yeah! That totally works on my car. I mean, sure, it's from 1972, but that's almost current...

That worked back in the day when it was a physical link and going in reverse took off mileage. This hasn't worked on any car built in the last couple decades. Computers have "the science" in them and prevent stuff like this.
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so that leaves us back to where we started? is there a way to erase the memory and just fine a way to put the mileage back on?
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found a place that'll do it for 50 bucks, but i'll bet i won't have gauges for a month......
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I had to get a new gauge cluster under warranty a few weeks ago and asked the dealership about this. They said they had no idea and were not allowed to do it. So my new cluster had 0 miles.
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anyone know how to atleast add mileage? can i just feed voltage to a wire and have the milage increase?
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i thought the odo stroed the milage in the bikes computer. did you replace that when you did the rebuild?
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nope, stored in the cluster
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