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No power to fuel pump

I have a race tomorrow and I need to figure this out, so if anyone can help quickly, I would appreciate it.

Right now the problem is there is no power going to the fuel pump at all. The engine cranks, everything worked this morning and yesterday, and all of a sudden nothing. So yea, no voltage to fuel pump according to multimeter. This is also true in neutral.

Again, if anyone can help quickly, please do. Thanks.

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You have a service manual?

you have power to your relays?

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The manual says to check the memory for trouble codes. Does your MIL blink when you turn the key on, side stand down? If it blinks you need to count how many times. I don't know where the listing is of the codes though.

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FUEL PUMP RELAY
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Check:
PGM-FI fuse
Sub fuse
BAS
Engine Relay
Fuel Relay
Fuel pump - you checked here with no voltage.

I would check your PGM-FI fuse...

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Question

you know whats weerd that happend to me yesterday too the exact same thing on the same day. is it a 2003? i was rideing not fast or anything then all the suden it just died. i rold to the side of the road and found out the fule pump dident come on as useual when i turned the key. i scrood around for the longest time trying to figure out why. then i just used my CAA card and got a free flat bed ride back to my garage. im trying to figure it out too. lets keep each outher posted on this. i need to ride tomorrow too its the first nice day of the year and my day off from work.
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BAS - FINE
ALL FUSES -Fine
ALL RELAYS - FINE

BIKE -NOT FINE

HeavyB - Your an a$$ for not telling me whats wrong with my 03.. no JK good luck ill keep ya posted

Going to work on my PGM FI area

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ok fast history i have tryed all the relays with another rrs relays they all work fine. checked all fuses- fine. BAS- fine. then we checked the fuel pump by direct wiring it -it pumped fuel just fine. tracked the wire through tthe bike from the fuel pump where there is no power. once i folled it in to the front harness i could not figure out why there was no voltage reading(lost the trail) came across a service manual (will give it away if anyone emails me and wants a digital copY) and was as pain to figure out what to do. so i am a whopping 9 hours away to my racer cert class($250) and i dont have a bike. I can honestly say i want to cry (i have spent $3000 fora bike that has worked for long time after buying it a ne 05 front end doing the swap today and now no work. I have also been kind enough to spend 3 hours on a DYNO wends to be good, and $1500 work of random good ness that i planed on posting when i got her put back together....and this is how she repays me... just like anyother woman.)


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where else are there any fuses. the FI by the battery and the 6 up by the radiator. please tell me there is another chillin some where that i dont know about that is causing this

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Did you check for Voltage at the relays? maybe the ground on the fuel pump is bad...

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So you did nothing at all to your bike since it was last running?

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i did swap the front end out, but all that intailed was mechanical no electrical(track bike)the throttle and starter never was removed

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i have the 03-04 service manual PM me your email ill try to shoot it to you if its not too large...

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and quick too, im falling asleep... :)

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offline? ok , im out, good luck.

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Check all your electrical plugs. Recheck the BAS. Are you getting an MIL? When you turn the key on does the light flash or just stay constant? If it flashes there are trouble codes.

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Safe to say someone probably unplugged something important....

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Well since its a track bike where do you have the BAS at? and is it installed correctly?

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It's the BAS.. might be upside down... but i'll lay money its BAS, unless you changed the igntion to an 05 up

Simply jumper the outer wires on the BAS plug to bypass, and see what happens, if it runs, you know that's the issue.
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Tried the BAS, promise its not the BAS. Tried a BAS off a 05, I also already tried bypassing it by doing that. And snik, thanks for trying, I actually already have the service manual but it's doing me no good. The BAS is located under the upper fairing bracket in just about the stock spot.

No flashing codes either. I am pretty good normally with this sort of stuff, but this is dumbfounding me. If its any consolation, the middle wire to the fuel pump is the wire that sends the signal to the fuel gauge. The fuel gauge works on and off.

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if you jumped the wires and it still dont work.. what about the kickstand/neutral switch? make sure the grey and blue connectors are completely connected, follow wiring for the killswitch, make sure its connected.. it should run..
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/\ checked all that, there are two new therorys to try First the most obvious the ECU (going to borrow another one and try that again) then the fact that i got a Dyno tune recently the PCIII might have died (this would explain why the sensors would be saying that the lines are charged , hence now power or signal to kick on the fuel pump)

And yes hot wiring the pump will kick it on but it does not know when to kick off.

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NOPE not the PCIII or the ECU or ANYTHING else i can think of. I am dying here. I think im taking it to a mechanic toady :(

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