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Need help with Power Shifting

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I've noticed an issue while attempting to power shift. I notice when shifting from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th, the range where I get a smooth shift is between 5-6K RPM. Whenever I shift at a higher RPM 10-13K(that's with re-adjusting the throttle just a little notch), one of two things happen:

1. The shifter is stuck HARD and doesn't shift.

OR

2. I shift, but it comes with a huge jolt!

What am I doing wrong here? I'm trying to time it, but sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.

Would I be able to power shift at higher RPMs smoothly? Thanks

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by power shifting do you mean without the clutch ??

if so you need to back out of the throttle a lil and bang the $hit out of it . then instantly right back on the throttle ..

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Yes, I do mean clutchless. Sorry.

Normally I don't need to gang the ish out of it! Sometimes, I tap it and it slips right into the next gear. I will try that though. Thanks

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Theres a sweet spot for shifting up and down actually you just gotta find it. Once you do clutchless is the sh*t

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the sweet spot is right where you line up the revs with were they should be in the next gear ... you can also downshift clutchless by opening the throttle a little bit to match the revs of where it would be in the lower gear ..its basically rev matching weather its upshifting or downshifting

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Are you accelerating or just sitting there at 11000 rpm? If you are just sitting there, it is much harder to upshift without the clutch. If you are accelerating (WFO - shift - WFO) it shifts much more easily.
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Are you accelerating or just sitting there at 11000 rpm? If you are just sitting there, it is much harder to upshift without the clutch. If you are accelerating (WFO - shift - WFO) it shifts much more easily.
No, I am accelerating. Normally, from 1st to 2nd, I engage the clutch. For every gear thereafter, it's clutchless. When I take 2nd gear to 11K, and shift around that mark, it feels as though the shifter is 'locked' and won't shift, even when I let off the throttle a tad. It's weird.

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its all about the throttle blip!
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its all about the throttle blip!
So how can that be measured? Do you blip less as youre going up gears? (i.e. 2nd-6th)

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i clutchless all the time, the problem you are having is timing, it has to be just right to be smooth keep practicing!
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find out the sweet spots. Apply constant pressure upwards [not too hard], and blip the throttle. She should pull right in.
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I'm really proud to say that I have almost mastered powershifting (well not really master, but you know what I mean :P) It feels so much better. I blip in accordance with revs. It's amazing!

Anyhow, thanks for all the advice!

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