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Bike not starting; no idea what the problem is.

I have an 05 and as of recent it wont start. There was nothing wrong with the bike before I rode it the day before or a couple days before parked it and a week later the bike wont start. I can hear the fuel pump prime and when i press the starter button it tries to spark, but it wont turn over, just the starting sound. I have one bar of fuel in the tank and it has started with this much gas before. Is it possible to flood the fuel lines or something if a friend of mine was twisting the throttle cable when its off? I tried to start the bike multiple times, so im assuming that if the lines were flooded it would have fixed that issue from my multiple attempts at starting. I have a battery charger and the battery sounds strong when attempting to start the bike.
On another note, my blinkers also stopped operating. The actual light stays on, but when i turn on my signals the side im indicating turns off and there is no blinking indicator on my dash.

Any ideas what my problems could be? Thanks.
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While attempting to start the bike hold the throttle
wide open it will take a few trials to get the bike going
so make sure the battery is fully charged

As far as your signals start with the easy tests check
the bulbs first , then the fuse , then the wires

If they are after market (led's) you might need resistors
to get them to work

If u get the bike running do not test
the turn signals unless the engine is running such tests can
and will kill the battery so fast

Best of luck if you got any questions post them here within
this thread will help you get the bike going



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Thanks for the help. I have been craving to ride lately and haven't been able to get the bike going. I will try this out tomorrow and hopefully the bike gets going. As for the turn signals I know it isnt the bulbs since the lights stay on like they are supposed to, it is only when I signal a turn that the light turns off and the dash doesn't indicate it operating. Where are the fuses located that correspond to the turn signals? I know there are some underneath the seat and behind the mid-fairing. Thanks for the help BTW!
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Fuse box underneath left side middle fairing

Take the big center metal screw off , Black plastic screw
that holds the Ram air cover and left middle fairing together

Pull on the Left Middle Fairing slightly fuse box right there



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so this morning I attempted to start the bike using the procedure you outlined and it kinda worked. The bike almost held an idle, but I wasn't sure if i should have been holding down the start button while twisting the throttle to keep a steady idle. I let go of the start button and throttle thinking the bike would maintain the idle, but it died. My battery is low so I wasn't given another chance to attempt to start the bike.
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Here is what you need to do once the bike starts hold the throttle till the
bike picks up a steady idle then let go of the throttle and let the bike idle
on its own you are getting there next time the bike will get going



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so I bought a new battery and with the added juice it started right up, but had that rough idle where i had to hold the throttle. Now i have the indicator lamp blinking and the FI indicator on... is this normal after a rough start?
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Glad you got it going , you mentioned indicator lamp is that the turn signal
that you had a problem with or something else please explain

As far as the FI it might go away and it might not the only way to tell
the reason behind it is getting me the code ( number of blinks)

Here is what you need to do turn the key on , start the bike , let it idle on its own and watch the FI light and as it blinks count the number of blinks
and post that info up i will look it up in the manual and tell you what the code is and what is causing the light to stay on and how to get rid of it



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After riding my bike to class the FI light turns off like it should and the red LED light that indicates a problem is off. So now the only problem i'm facing is the indicator lamps (turn signals) not working. They stay on when the bike is running (also when the key is turned, but the bike is not running); the problem is that when i try to indicate a turn (signal a turn) the blinker shuts off (turns off) instead of blinking. So if the blinker remains lit (like it's supposed to), but then when i signal a turn it turns the light off then would that be the fuse? Shouldn't there be no light at all if it is the fuse? Side note: when i signal a turn the blinkers on my dash dont light up either.

super side-note: Thanks for all the help moeman.
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My pleasure man its always my pleasure to help out
I got a few questions about your turn signals
1. Are you using stock turn signals or after market ?
2. If they are after market are they Led ?
3. Do the turn signal left & right act the same way ?
4. What about the rear turn signals do they perform fine or not ?

Once i get more info i will be able to lead you into the right direction
One way or the other will get the problem resolved



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I'm using stock turn signals. Both front left/right and rear left/right signals act in the same manner: they shut off when applied.
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Ok so when you hit the turn signal switch the turn signal bulbs stay on
and do not blink plus the turn signal indicator within the gauge stay on
constant
If that is the case one of the bulbs is burnt or its connection
got loose for one reason or another take the lenses off and check all
the bulbs front and back
Please report back what you find out and will go from there
Make sure the bike is running when you test the turn signals
such tests without the bike running can kill the battery so fast



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I am having a similar problem with my 05. I was putting a new fairing stay on and had my headlight switch disconnected. I tried starting the bike and wouldnt. Then I remembered the clutch safety switch was on that same loom. So I connected it back up, and figured everything was fine. Take the bike outside to start it, nothing. I tried holding the throttle wide open, nothing. So the battery dies on me. I get it charged back up and a couple days later, I try again. Nothing this time either.

I am lost on stuff to try. Should I check the plugs?
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Ok so when you hit the turn signal switch the turn signal bulbs stay on
and do not blink plus the turn signal indicator within the gauge stay on
constant
If that is the case one of the bulbs is burnt or its connection
got loose for one reason or another take the lenses off and check all
the bulbs front and back
Please report back what you find out and will go from there
Make sure the bike is running when you test the turn signals
such tests without the bike running can kill the battery so fast
It's the other way around, the turn signal bulbs stay on when I'm not indicating a turn; it's when i do indicate a turn that that side turns off. The turn signal in the guages doesn't ever blink. The funny thing is I noticed this happeneing a couple months ago immediatly after the dealer installed new tires on my bike. I brought the bike back into the dealer asking them if it was their fault. They said that the removal and installation of the tires would have no bearing on the turn signals. Coincidence?
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