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Bike won't shift out of first.

03 600rr won't shift out of first. I have no idea where to begin checking. The shifter moves, but never clicks into gear. Any ideas?
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ok, is this with the engine running or what?
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even on rear stand if the bike isnt running or at least manually turning the rear wheel
you might get a gear maybe two
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Off or on, the bike will not shift out of first. The shift pedal feels limp. Normally downward pressure in first feels firm, but the pedal moves. Could the the crankshaft gear have slipped?
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oooooh ho hooo ho hoooo...

ouch.

oh that sucks... RShackleford might just be right... it probably isn't a gear that you need though. i'm not really experienced in this field.

Was there an event that preceded this problem?
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oooooh ho hooo ho hoooo...

ouch.

oh that sucks... RShackleford might just be right... it probably isn't a gear that you need though. i'm not really experienced in this field.

Was there an event that preceded this problem?
Yeah did you take anything apart before this started to happen?

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Yah a little more info. Did you go down or did this just pop out unexpected out of no where?
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from the manual

hard to shift
-improper clutch operation
-incorrect oil weight
-bent shift fork
-shift fork shaft
-shift drum
-shift drum groove
-bent gearshift spindle

tranny jumps out of gear
-gear dogs
-gear shift grooves
-shift fork shaft
-shift drum stopper arm
-stopper arm spring
-bent shift fork
-gearshift spindle
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I dropped the bike on the left side at a very low speed. this caused the problem. My bike is exactly like the blue one depicted above, by the way - nice choice!
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Your shifter is bent. I dropped my F3 too. I couldn't shift out of first gear because the shifter was bent.. take a good picture of another RR shifter and adjust it.. or just straighten out the shifter.

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does this help?

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Here are some pictures of it. Does it look bent? I can't really tell. And if it is, where exactly is it bent? Thanks...


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A blue one eh? You over Europe?

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If the spline shaft coming out of the tranny takes a hit it will jump off the shift star....there is a really thin piece of metal holding it in place. See if there is play in the upper heim (in or out) on the spline.
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Here are some pictures of it. Does it look bent? I can't really tell. And if it is, where exactly is it bent? Thanks...

Looks pretty straight to me...
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I have done some tampering, and I am worried something is disconnected underneath.

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If the spline shaft coming out of the tranny takes a hit it will jump off the shift star....there is a really thin piece of metal holding it in place. See if there is play in the upper heim (in or out) on the spline.
I don't quite understand what to look for here. Do I need to start pulling the plastics and cover off? Where is the spline?

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If you replaced it yourself with oem parts it will run you like $180.00 if you have to do it yourself.Its just a stupid asspain to get done.
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BTW its common to mess up a shift fork when your drop a bike with stock rearsets.I've seen it more than once.
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ok i know whats wrong with it. i go to school for motorcycle tech and i just got done with this class it is you shifting paw is too worn down and is not catching and keeping in gear. or your shift fork has too much wear and isnt catching which means your shift dogs are not connecting. you will have to split the cases and rebuild your tranny which is about 10 hours of labor
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If that is the case, I will do it, but I don't know where to begin...
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ok i know whats wrong with it. i go to school for motorcycle tech and i just got done with this class it is you shifting paw is too worn down and is not catching and keeping in gear. or your shift fork has too much wear and isnt catching which means your shift dogs are not connecting. you will have to split the cases and rebuild your tranny which is about 10 hours of labor
I don't see how this analysis could be the result of a fall
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I don't see how this analysis could be the result of a fall
it could have bent the shift rod by the fall the same thing happened to my bike when i lowsided it it bent my shift rod resulting in bent shift forks
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durring a fall, does the FD Sprocket even hit the ground? i suppose the sudden trauma of the stop could cause the damage, but that'd have to be a violent fall!
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durring a fall, does the FD Sprocket even hit the ground? i suppose the sudden trauma of the stop could cause the damage, but that'd have to be a violent fall!
I don't think the sprockets did, and the fall was not very violent, the back wheel skidded out from under me at 5 mph.
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it could have bent the shift rod by the fall the same thing happened to my bike when i lowsided it it bent my shift rod resulting in bent shift forks
This sounds probable. So should I get a new rod and new shift forks if this is the case? Should I take it to a shop and get it over with?
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If you have the money its worth taking to a shop.
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I'm with 6ixxer....go pay the diag and then decide if it's a home job ? If you misdiagnose it yourself, you could be in too deep?

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can you push in on the top where the shifter goes into the casing? there shouldnt be any play there and if there is then you need to get a plate that holds it in place.. part # 14623-MV1-000... if your lucky that is all it is and its a cheap part.. the only thing that sucks is that you have to remove the clutch basket to get to it..

http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/200_04...50&parent=5240

this link might help..
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.. the only thing that sucks is that you have to remove the clutch basket to get to it..

http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/200_04...50&parent=5240

this link might help..

i just posted a how to on exactly how to do that.
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