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MotoGP 2013 Round 16 Australia ***SPOILER***

We all know by now, Marquez can win the championship here and thus become the youngest ever premier class World Champion and the first rookie title winner since Kenny Roberts in 1978. If he wins, the ultimate honour will be his providing Lorenzo finishes third or lower.
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Stoner: "Casey will be inducted as a MotoGP™ Legend at Phillip Island and he has told me he will be honoured to accept," says Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta. "He has been one of the best riders in the history of MotoGP™. His skills are amazing and he did something very special by winning two championships on two different makes, Ducati and Honda."

Round 16 of 18 will mark the first time a rider will be able to win the 2013 MotoGP™ world title and 20-year-old Marquez is the only one who could do so at Phillip Island. Should he score seven more points than current title holder Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha Factory Racing) and five more than Repsol Honda Team colleague Dani Pedrosa, Marquez will become the first rookie World Champion since Kenny Roberts 35 years ago, as well as the youngest in the history of the sport.
“It was a good weekend in Malaysia and we took some very important championship points,” says the Catalan, who at Sepang finished second in a Repsol Honda one-two. “Now, without any time to rest, we head to Australia for the next race and we need to maintain the same direction and mentality as it's working for us in this moment.
“Phillip Island will be important for the championship, as there are only three races to go and every point makes a difference, but we will try to approach it as we do every race weekend: work hard from the beginning and keep our concentration.”
Teammate Dani Pedrosa also remains a title contender and, following his impressive third victory of the year at Sepang last weekend, is now targeting more of the same.

Phillip Island:
Phillip Island, the self-styled home of Australian motorsport, is steeped in motor racing tradition, with the first car races having been held there on public roads in the 1920s. The first motorcycle races took place in 1931 and a permanent track was built in 1956. The circuit fell into disrepair during the late 70s and early 80s until it was bought in 1985 and given a AUS $5m facelift. MotoGP returned in 1989 and 1990 before becoming a regular fixture once more from 1997 onwards.

The Phillip Island circuit is blessed with breathtaking scenery and beautiful ocean views and, as one of the fastest, most fluid, tracks on the calendar, it continues to provide some of the most spectacular racing in the MotoGP season.

Track Record: Stoner of course :P 1'28.665 (2008) on the Duc

Current Points:
1 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 298
2 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 255
3 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 244
4 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 198
5 Cal CRUTCHLOW Yamaha GBR 166
6 Alvaro BAUTISTA Honda SPA 136
7 Stefan BRADL Honda GER 135
8 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 120
9 Nicky HAYDEN Ducati USA 102
10 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 89



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Friday
FP1: 19:55-20:40
FP2: 00:05-00:50 (sat)
Sat
FP3: 19:55-20:40
FP4: 23:30-00:00 (Sun)
Q1: 00:10-00:25
Q2: 00:35-00:50
Sunday
Race: 01:00 so 1am est Sunday morning, might just stay up and watch this one live :)
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Just looked.... doesn't look like my cable provider is going to be airing this race.. I'm pissed

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Really? thats too bad :( SpeedHD carries the races here (now called Fox1 Sports) in any event when i orig had Speed TV the HD channel wasnt avail in my region which sucked esp w my new Sharp Aquos 52" LED TV, finally the HD channel was released :) That being said i miss my SBK races :( Speed dropped coverage
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Really hoping Marc can win the title this weekend, but part of me hopes its NOT decided just quite yet, still 2 races to go after this one :)

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ahhh found it on the cable listing! they aren't airing it live, but have it set to show at 8am

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Wish he were still racing!! Marquez and Stoner battles would have been epic
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Stefan Bradl has been given the all clear to take part in opening practice for the Tissot Australian Grand Prix. Following that opening period on Friday, the German – who suffered a fractured ankle in Malaysia – will be further assessed in order to decide whether or not he will be able to continue with the Phillip Island weekend
“I am happy to be declared fit from the doctor side, but for me it’s important to try the bike and see what’s going on,” the German explains. “I still do not know if it’s painful or not. Secondly, we will see how fast I can ride and, if I pass the second medical check tomorrow after the first practice, I am pretty sure that I won’t be capable to fight for the top five on Sunday.

“We will try to find the right balance to get an acceptable rhythm; we are lucky because this circuit does not have so many right-handed corners and this is positive but the first right corner is more than 200 kilometres per hour, so it won’t be easy anyway. I want to express my sincere thanks to the guys from the Clinica Mobile because they have helped me a lot over the last few days."

Last year at Phillip Island, Bradl finished in sixth position, having been second and on the podium towards the end of his title-winning Moto2™ campaign 12 months earlier.
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Ok here we go! JL tops 1st FP, MM just behind, and AB in P3 dude is fast, wonder if he will be battling w VR again :)
"Reigning MotoGP™ World Champion Jorge Lorenzo topped the timesheets in opening practice for the Tissot Australian Grand Prix. The Yamaha Factory Racing rider lapped Phillip Island, with its new track surface, less than a tenth of a second quicker than championship leader Marc Marquez while Alvaro Bautista rounded out the top three."

FP1 Results

1LORENZO J.Yamaha Factory Racing1:29.167
2MARQUEZ M.Repsol Honda Team+0.088
3BAUTISTA A.GO&FUN Honda Gresini+0.664
4PEDROSA D.Repsol Honda Team+0.841
5ROSSI V.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.886
6CRUTCHLOW C.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+0.963
7SMITH B.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.194
8HAYDEN N.Ducati Team+1.499
9DE PUNIET R.Power Electronics Aspar+2.113
10IANNONE A.Energy T.I. Pramac Racing+2.128
11EDWARDS C.NGM Mobile Forward Racing+2.390
12AOYAMA H.Avintia Blusens+2.470
13DOVIZIOSO A.Ducati Team+2.515

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Looks like Bradl declared "unfit" to race after post FP1 med review, that's too bad, figured that much after his P20 :(
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Lorenzo man to beat on Friday:
1 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 336.3 1'28.961
2 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 343.9 1'29.438 0.477 / 0.477
3 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 334.6 1'29.478 0.517 / 0.040
4 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 341.2 1'29.537 0.576 / 0.059
5 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 334.7 1'29.667 0.706 / 0.130
6 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 336.0 1'29.989 1.028 / 0.322
7 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 336.2 1'30.165 1.204 / 0.176
8 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Power Electronics Aspar ART 329.7 1'30.215 1.254 / 0.050
9 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 333.9 1'30.609 1.648 / 0.394
10 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 337.6 1'30.754 1.793 / 0.145
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There liking the newly paved surface!
Making the most of the new track surface at the southern Australian venue, Lorenzo topped the timesheets in both sessions, leading the day’s combined classification from championship rival Marc Marquez and Alvaro Bautista.

JL&VR
“I feel that here we are much more competitive than in Malaysia,” the Yamaha Factory Racing rider stated in the afternoon. “There are some problems with the wind in some corners, where we cannot keep the front wheel on the ground, so we need to improve that for tomorrow. In general, every step we make with the bike works, so little by little we have improved and been faster.

“The tyre feels consistent, also, so let’s see if we can improve the little issue with the front. The new tarmac is much better, you can push with more confidence and there are less bumps. The exit of Turn 6 (Siberia) has a little bump, but apart from that corner everything is much better.”

Teammate Valentino Rossi also ended Day 1 contented.

“I’m happy about today, especially this afternoon as we were able to improve the settings of the bike a lot,” began the Italian, who last finished on the Phillip Island rostrum in 2010. “I’m happy about my pace, I’m consistent and also quite fast - I can stay on a 1’29, even with used tyres. We have to improve some areas, especially Turn 4 to try to go faster, and we need to exit the last corner in a better way. We also need to work for the edge of the tyre, especially on the left as it's a big stress.

“The track is fantastic with good weather like today. The new surface is very good, so it's a great pleasure to ride the M1 here. We are all very close and we are quite fast. The track is easier to ride like this because the new tarmac has more grip and less bumps. It’s easier but we have to be faster! The lines are more or less the same.”

Last year, Lorenzo wrapped up his second MotoGP™ title in Australia, whereas Rossi has only failed to make the Phillip Island podium on three occasions.

MM&DP
Indeed, the first day of Phillip Island free practice concluded with Marquez and Pedrosa in second and fourth positions, respectively, on the combined timesheet.

Marquez crashed at Turn 9 of the Australian track early on in the second session, and failed to repeat his lap times from the first practice, whilst Pedrosa was forced to stop on track due to a mechanical problem caused by a mistake by his team.

Pedrosa’s engine mounting bolt was not properly locked and came loose. He realised there was a problem immediately and pulled his bike safely off the track.

In the morning session, Marquez immediately demonstrated a good understanding of the Australian circuit. He finished with the second fastest time of 1’29.255, just 0.088s off that of Jorge Lorenzo. Pedrosa finished in fourth place, 0.841s off the top spot.

In the second session, Pedrosa lowered his times to stop the clock at 1’29.438, after just 13 laps. The Spaniard was third on the timesheet in the run. Improving his times after an early crash, Marquez was unable to match his morning lap times and was sixth.

"Today was very positive, the new asphalt felt good and the tyres worked well for us," said an upbeat Pedrosa. "The only setback was that we were unable to make the most of all the time available, due to a problem with the bike at the end of the afternoon session. That meant that we had to end the day early. In general it was a good day, and we shall try to improve further tomorrow."

Marquez added, "The day went well ‒especially in the morning. It's a pity about the crash right at the start of the afternoon run but we went back out with the second bike, which had a totally different geometry and we had no time in which to change things.

"Thus, we used the initial setup for the entire session. We shall see if tomorrow we can regain the feeling that we had in the morning session, as I felt very good ‒something that is very important at Phillip Island. We shall continue working in order to improve for the race."
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Bridgestone explains tyre decision for race
For 2013, Phillip Island has a new track surface which has been generally well received by riders. However, having analysed Friday’s data and due to levels of degradation, both prototype and CRT riders have been requested to use the harder tyres available to them for the race on Sunday.

"This morning’s FP1 session was the first chance for us to assess what effect the new Phillip Island surface would have on tyre performance and straight away it was apparent that the new surface offers more grip, which resulted in very quick lap times," confirmed Shinji Aoki, Manager of Bridgestone Motorsport’s Tyre Development Department. "It was great to see times getting close to the circuit best lap time on the opening day!

"We anticipated that the new tarmac at this circuit had the potential to make this circuit even more severe on tyres, so we analysed the tyres used by the riders today to see if this was the case. Our analysis shows that the tarmac has made this track tougher on tyres, so we have decided that - although riders can still use the softer rear slicks for the remaining practice sessions and qualifying - for the race we have specified that all riders use the harder rear slick options available to them."

Sunday’s Tissot Australian Grand Prix will be staged over the course of 27 laps, equating to 120 kilometres or 74.6 miles.
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FP3 Results DP sets the pace, VR P3 nice! AB better time then JL ??
1 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 333.7 1'29.074
2 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 342.2 1'29.122 0.048 / 0.048
3 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 340.4 1'29.192 0.118 / 0.070
4 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 344.8 1'29.192 0.118
5 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 337.1 1'29.235 0.161 / 0.043
6 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 334.9 1'29.652 0.578 / 0.417
7 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 335.8 1'29.691 0.617 / 0.039
8 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 335.4 1'29.731 0.657 / 0.040
9 5 Colin EDWARDS USA NGM Mobile Forward Racing FTR Kawasaki 330.2 1'29.827 0.753 / 0.096
10 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Power Electronics Aspar ART 329.3 1'29.971 0.897 / 0.144

JL still tops combined times heading into Qual
Jorge Lorenzo finished atop the combined timesheets as the Qualifying running order was decided in third free practice for the Tissot Australian Grand Prix. The Yamaha Factory Racing rider remained ahead with his lap time of Friday, despite Repsol Honda Team’s Dani Pedrosa topping the Saturday morning session.

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MOTO2 QP is out of control. Two nasty crashes with guys being stretchered off. Championship leader Redding carted out holding his arm after getting pummeled in a wicked high-side. Four of the top 6 riders crashed out. On top of that the MOTO2 race is being shortened to 13 laps (instead of 25) due to excessive tire wear.

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MOTO2 QP is out of control. Two nasty crashes with guys being stretchered off. Championship leader Redding carted out holding his arm after getting pummeled in a wicked high-side. Four of the top 6 riders crashed out. On top of that the MOTO2 race is being shortened to 13 laps (instead of 25) due to excessive tire wear.

A crazy weekend for these guys.
Dunlop fucked up BIG TIME.....
The MotoGP Race may be shortened as well due to tire wear.
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You'd think after the WSBK guys told them flatout that the surface was destroying tyres that they'd have had someone out there to test the compounds they were planning to use...
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You'd think after the WSBK guys told them flatout that the surface was destroying tyres that they'd have had someone out there to test the compounds they were planning to use...
Dunlop Douchebaggery at its finest . Maybe Michelin will get next year's contract............unless the current one covers future years.

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They have a contract for moto2 and moto3 up until the end of 2014...
http://www.***********/en/news/2011/...oto3+and+Moto2

Bridgestone have their contract for motogp up until the end of 2014 as well...
http://www.tirebusiness.com/article/...d-through-2014

It was interesting to see what was happening to the extra hard compound on the GP bikes as well...
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New challenge as mandatory bike swaps added to Australian GP

The change came courtesy of an announcement from Race Direction after qualifying on Saturday, with Bridgestone having announced that it is unable to guarantee the safety of its rear slick tyres beyond 14 laps.

It has therefore been decided to make the following changes to the MotoGP™ class race in the interests of safety:

1. The race distance will be 26 laps (previously scheduled to be 27)

2. Every rider will be required to enter the pits and change to their second machine with fresh tyres at least once during the race.

3. No rider is permitted to make more than 14 laps on any one slick rear tyre. This means that a bike/tyre change before lap 12 would require a second bike/tyre change to finish the race

4. Riders using ‘Factory’ and ‘Satellite’ machines will be required to use the ‘hard’ option tyre (B51DR). Extra quantity will be allocated by Bridgestone

5. Riders using CRT machines will be required to use the CRT ‘hard’ option tyre (B50DR). Extra quantity will be allocated by Bridgestone

6. The pit lane speed limit zone will be extended both on entry and exit and the exit route to rejoin the track will be marked by a white line in the runoff area; crossing this line whilst rejoining the track from pit lane will result in a penalty
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Very interesting... pretty soon we'll have the old days back with tyre changes and gravity fed refuelling... :)
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I would predict Lorenzo, Rossi, Marquez in 1 2 3 respectively.

Reasons being:

1. Lorenzo is just plain quick and experienced enough that the bike change probably won't faze him to much.

2. Again, experience and the fact that he (Rossi) is strong at PI and that he's also quicker with a partial fuel load. The fact they are changing bikes means that he won't have to carry a full load the whole time so should have the upper hand there.

3. I can't see Marquez doing any better than third simply because the bike change is more likely to knock him for 6, and because yesterday he explained his (comparatively) poor performance on the fact his two bikes have very different geometries. Getting the set-up to be exactly the same on both machines may not be possible for him so he may well be significantly slower on his second bike again. I think sheer talent and no sense of sanity is what will get him to the podium this time.

If not Marquez in 3rd then Pedrosa will take it out.
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I would predict Lorenzo, Rossi, Marquez in 1 2 3 respectively.

Reasons being:

1. Lorenzo is just plain quick and experienced enough that the bike change probably won't faze him to much.

2. Again, experience and the fact that he (Rossi) is strong at PI and that he's also quicker with a partial fuel load. The fact they are changing bikes means that he won't have to carry a full load the whole time so should have the upper hand there.

3. I can't see Marquez doing any better than third simply because the bike change is more likely to knock him for 6, and because yesterday he explained his (comparatively) poor performance on the fact his two bikes have very different geometries. Getting the set-up to be exactly the same on both machines may not be possible for him so he may well be significantly slower on his second bike again. I think sheer talent and no sense of sanity is what will get him to the podium this time.

If not Marquez in 3rd then Pedrosa will take it out.
The second bike was initially set-up with completely different settings and they were never changed in that FP. I would imagine both bikes during the race will be set-up as close to each as possible.


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