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Moto GP 2016 Testing

Will post all 2016 Related articles / results from Tire Testing (Tues and Wed) in Valencia here
2016 Rider Line Up: so nice to see Alex's name on here


2016 Provisional Schedule
Round Date Grand Prix Venue
1 20/03 Qatar Losail International Circuit
2 03/04 Argentina Termas de Río Hondo
3 10/04 Americas Circuit Of The Americas
4 24/04 Spain Jerez de la Frontera *
5 08/05 France Le Mans
6 22/05 Italy Mugello
7 05/06 Catalunya Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya
8 26/06 Netherlands TT Assen
9 10/07 Germany Sachsenring
10 17/07 Great Britain Silverstone
11 14/08 Austria Red Bull Ring
12 21/08 Czech Republic Brno *
13 11/09 San Marino e della Riviera di Rimini Misano
14 25/09 Aragon MotorLand Aragon
15 09/10 Malaysia Sepang International Circuit
16 16/10 Japan Twin Ring Motegi
17 23/10 Australia Phillip Island
18 06/11 Valencia Comunitat Valenciana - Ricardo Tormo
* Subject to contract

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Tuesday and Wednesday will see preparations for 2016 begin, and a chance to have your questions answered. #2016StartsNow
There will be a lot of changes to the MotoGP™ World Championship in 2016, new tyres, new electronics, new riders and even some new bikes. Despite having just finished the intense 2015 season, riders will be back out in Valencia on Tuesday and Wednesday to begin preparations for the 2016 season. As always MOTO GPwill bring you full coverage throughout both days of testing.

With so many changes going on there’s a lot of questions to ask and answer, using the hashtag #PitLaneTalk on Twitter, you can post questions to the commentary team. You can also use #PitLaneTalk to pose questions to team members and riders throughout the test.

#2016StartsNow for the MotoGP™ World Championship!



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Ugh, I still need some time to swallow all the bullsh*t of 2015.

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Ugh, I still need some time to swallow all the bullsh*t of 2015.
i think we all do, im just posting this now because of Testing tomorrow and Wed

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Testing Day 1 full results :

Following the MotoGP season finale, riders returned to the Valencia circuit on Tuesday for the start of a two-day official test.

Tuesday marked the first time that official timing has been available for testing with Michelin tyres, replacing Bridgestone as exclusive supplier from next season, while some riders also began work on the 2016 single ECU system.

Marc Marquez went fastest on his fourth lap then fell at Turn 3. Cal Crutchlow set the pace shortly after, then also fell (at Turn 5). Marquez returned to the top on his tenth lap, where he remained until the end of the day.

Repsol Honda and Movistar Yamaha sent their 2016 prototypes out on track at the end of the day.

As well as Marquez and Crutchlow, Tuesday saw front end falls for Pol Espargaro, Aleix Espargaro (twice), Eugene Laverty (twice), Maverick Vinales, Alvaro Bautista, Stefan Bradl, Jack Miller, Tito Rabat and Andre Iannone. All riders walked away.

Some riders, including Crutchlow, were faster than during Sunday's race.

Scott Redding, Loris Baz and Eugene Laverty were making their Ducati debuts for Pramac, Avintia and Aspar respectively. Jack Miller was riding at Marc VDS for the first time, alongside rookie team-mate Tito Rabat.

Testing, which took place between 10am and 5pm, continues on Wednesday...

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.551s (Lap 10/47)
2. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.639s +0.088s (30/61)
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.681s +0.130s (11/49)
4. Maverick Vinales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 31.720s +0.169s (36/59)
5. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.767s +0.216s (32/41)
6. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.911s +0.360s (8/54)
7. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 31.937s +0.386s (10/40)
8. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 31.997s +0.446s (32/67)
9. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 32.005s +0.454s (36/47)
10. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 32.073s +0.522s (57/66)
11. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 32.214s +0.663s (30/52)
12. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 32.401s +0.850s (45/57)
13. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 32.442s +0.891s (46/47)
14. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.468s +0.917s (35/38)
15. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 32.594s +1.043s (33/47)
16. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 32.673s +1.122s (82/84)
17. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 32.721s +1.170s (34/46)
18. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.943s +1.392s (52/53)
19. Yonny Hernandez COL Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 33.046s +1.495s (31/57)
20. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 33.061s +1.510s (66/66)
21. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 33.253s +1.702s (39/46)
22. Takuya Tsuda JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 34.591s +3.040s (54/55)
23. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 36.338s +4.787s (12/24)

Official Valencia MotoGP records:
Best lap:
Jorge Lorenzo SPA Yamaha 1m 30.011s (2015)
Fastest race lap:
Jorge Lorenzo SPA Yamaha 1m 31.367s (2015)

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Just two days after the end of the 2015 MotoGP™ season, the 2016 season got underway with the first Official Test in Valencia on Tuesday.
On Tuesday the 2016 MotoGP™ season kicked off with the first Official test at the Comunitat Valenciana – Ricardo Tormo circuit. The new season not only sees a new rider join the MotoGP™ paddock in the shape of Tito Rabat, but also a raft of technical changes aimed at levelling the playing field along with some team line-up changes.

The technical changes include the introduction of a Spec ECU that all teams must use, Michelin taking over as the sole tyre supplier, a fuel limit of 22 litres for all and the use of seven engines for the year, plus the bikes now have to weigh a maximum of 157kg compared to 158kg in 2015. The wheel diameter has also been increased by half an inch to 17” by Michelin, as they look to bring them more inline with road bikes.

So with this in mind and after the incredible finish to the 2015 season, all eyes were once again on Valencia today as riders took to the track for the first time in anger for the 2016 MotoGP™ World Championship season.

Repsol Honda’s Marc Marquez ended the day on top of the timesheets with a 1’31.551 as he spent the morning on his 2015 machine assessing the new Michelin tyres, before swapping to the 2016 RC213V in the afternoon. Impressively the Spaniard managed to lap within a tenth of his best time from the race at the track just two days previously despite a crash early on at turn 3. His teammate Dani Pedrosa (+0.130s) finished in third as he also assessed the new machine in the afternoon, although both riders set their best time on the 2015 bike.

Ducati Team’s Andrea Iannone (+0.088s) was second fastest despite crashing twice at turn 3, as he and his teammate Andrea Dovizioso (10th) tried out the new software and tyres on their respective GP15 machines, but they will have to wait for the Sepang test to get their hands on the Desmosedici GP16.

Team Suzuki Ecstar’s Rookie of the Year Maverick Vińales (+0.169s) ended the day in fourth, just over two-tenths quicker than his teammate Aleix Espargaro in seventh. The duo were focusing on the setup their bikes to run with the new tyres, with Vińales managing to improve his best time from the Valencia GP by over half a second, while Suzuki Test Rider’s Takuya Tsuda (22nd) and Nobuatsu Aoki (23rd) worked on the new software.

Movistar Yamaha’s newly crowned 2015 MotoGP™ World Champion Jorge Lorenzo finished 0.216s off the pace of Marquez in fifth. The man who he beat to the title in Valencia GP, his teammate Valentino Rossi, ended the day in 12th. Both riders spent the morning on the 2015 versions of their M1’s, before switching to the 2016 version in the afternoon and setting their best times of the day.

LCR Honda’s Cal Crutchlow (+0.360s) had a crash early on at turn 5 but ended up going went three tenths quicker than during the race as he tested out some Nissin brakes, ending the day in an impressive sixth.

The Monster Yamaha Tech 3 duo of Pol Espargaro and Bradley Smith occupied seventh and eighth respectively on the timesheets, as only six-hundredths of a second separated the teammates despite the former also crashing just before lunch at turn 1.

Scott Redding got his first taste of the Ducati GP15 as he made his debut with the Octo Pramac Racing team. The British rider clearly liked his new bike as he improved his best lap time from Sunday’s race by over half a second to finish in 11th. This was over two tenths quicker than his new teammate Danilo Petrucci in 13th.

The Avintia Racing team were working with the Ducati GP14.2, with the 2015 Open class champion Hector Barbera in 14th and his new teammate Loris Baz in 18th.

Jack Miller completed his switch to the Marc VDS Racing Team by finishing in 15th. The Australian improving by almost a second on his best lap time from Sunday. The test also saw the full debut of Tito Rabat in the premier class on the EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda. The 2014 Moto2™ World Champion completing an incredible 84 laps throughout the day – 17 more than anyone else – to finish in 16th.

Aprilia Racing Team Gresini’s Stefan Bradl and Alvaro Bautista ended the day in 17th and 20th respectively, as they too chose to stick with their 2015 machines to help them work on the new tyres and electronics.

The Aspar MotoGP Team have switched to Ducati machinery for 2016, meaning that Eugene Laverty (21st) and his new teammate Yonny Hernandez (18th) both got their hands on a GP14.2 for the first time at the test. Both riders managed to improve their best times from the GP by over two-tenths as they put their new bikes through their paces.
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Testing Day 2 Full Results:

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.060s
2. Maverick Vinales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 31.163s +0.103s
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.180s +0.120s
4. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 31.212s +0.152s
5. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.282s +0.222s
6. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.494s +0.434s
7. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.498s +0.438s
8. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 31.619s +0.559s
9. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.619s +0.559s
10. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 31.694s +0.634s
11. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.717s +0.657s
12. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 31.796s +0.736s
13. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.901s +0.841s
14. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 31.937s +0.877s
15. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.967s +0.907s
16. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 32.100s +1.040s
17. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.377s +1.317s
18. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 32.402s +1.342s
19. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 32.492s +1.432s
20. Yonny Hernandez COL Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.510s +1.450s
21. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 32.847s +1.787s
22. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 33.568s +2.508s
23. Takuya Tsuda JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 33.797s +2.737s
24. Mike di Meglio FRA Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 34.372s +3.312s
25. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 37.031s +5.971s

Fastest day one time:
Marc Marquez SPA Honda 1m 31.551s

Official Valencia MotoGP records:
Best lap:
Jorge Lorenzo SPA Yamaha 1m 30.011s (2015)
Fastest race lap:
Jorge Lorenzo SPA Yamaha 1m 31.367s (2015)


Fastest 2015 Valencia race laps:
1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.367s
2. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.455s +0.088s
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.478s +0.111s
4. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.491s +0.124s
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.820s +0.453s
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 32.041s +0.674s
7. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 32.121s +0.754s
8. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 32.236s +0.869s
9. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 32.240s +0.873s
10. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 32.338s +0.971s
11. Maverick Vińales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 32.381s +1.014s >
12. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.385s +1.018s
13. Yonny Hernandez COL Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.776s +1.409s
14. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 32.884s +1.517s
15. Scott Redding GBR Marc VDS Honda (RC213V) 1m 32.942s +1.575s
16. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open) 1m 32.944s +1.577s
17. Nicky Hayden USA Aspar MotoGP Team (RC213V-RS) 1m 33.105s +1.738s
18. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 33.263s +1.896s
19. Loris Baz FRA Forward Racing (Yamaha Forward) 1m 33.265s +1.898s
20. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 33.312s +1.945s
21. Jack Miller AUS LCR Honda (RC213V-RS) 1m 33.427s +2.060s
22. Toni Elias SPA Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 1m 33.435s +2.068s
23. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (RC213V-RS) 1m 33.500s +2.133s
24. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open) 1m 33.567s +2.200s
25. Anthony West AUS AB Motoracing (RC213V-RS) 1m 33.722s +2.355s
26. Broc Parkes AUS E-Motion IodaRacing (ART) 1m 34.359s +2.992s
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Valencia MotoGP Test: Marquez ‘far from potential’ of new electronics 11 November 2015
Marc Marquez spent the majority of the second day of testing at Valencia working on 2016 MotoGP electronics, needs to find base setting before assessing new engine.

Marc Marquez set the fastest time of the two-day post-season test in Valencia but stated he and Honda are still “far from the potential” of the 2016 electronics package.

Fresh from finishing second in the season finale, Marquez was three tenths of a second fastesr than the best 2015 race time.

Yet the 22-year old was far from happy with the electronics' performance, and still couldn't pass judgement on the new Honda engine.

“The thing is today we ride only with the Magneti Marelli software and we are far from a base. There are things we must improve. For the lap time the Michelin tyres are easier to make a faster lap time than Bridgestone.

“For that reason the times are really close. We play with many things, work a lot and the problem with the electronics is that you make five laps and then you stay half an hour or one hour in the box trying to fix. We need time to try and understand it well.

“At the moment I'm not enjoying it a lot. The thing is my bike didn't spin. It's just moving and cutting and I think we are far from the potential of these electronics. At the moment I still didn't understand well. I'm riding fast and pushing but I want to understand it better for the slides and all these things.

“Not much but the thing is with the Michelins you need to be careful. Just change a little bit the temperature and in the end there were many crashes, it was locking a lot. In the midday the feeling was different, the confidence was good. But everybody was pushing and locking the front.

“We must understand well and it's normal after many years with one tyres that the bikes are in that direction. I only work with the electronics. I was riding with the same set-up like Sunday. If we fix the set-up it will be better but we didn't spend time on this.”

Marquez stated he doesn't feel a need to alter his riding style dramatically and instead needs to come to terms with the feel of the Michelin rubber.

“The thing is with the Michelins you need to be careful. Just change a little bit the temperature and in the end there were many crashes, it was locking a lot. In the midday the feeling was different, the confidence was good. But everybody was pushing and locking the front.

“We must understand well and it's normal after many years with one tyres that the bikes are in that direction. I only work with the electronics. I was riding with the same set-up like Sunday. If we fix the set-up it will be better but we didn't spend time on this.

“[With the electronics the most important area] For me at the moment is corner exit. Mid corner to exit corner is where we must understand more because sometimes I feel some cuts that I don't understand. Sometimes it was a little better.

“It looks more critical, you must try to play with the gas but when you play you are slow. Still we didn't understand but it's normal. Everything is new, the engineers are working a lot and with the electronics you need a lot of time so you can adjust corner by corner. Yesterday we just tried at the end and then it's difficult.”

Marquez suffered his second crash in as many days on Wednesday afternoon, this one coming as he braked for the final turn. It was he said, similar in style to his fall when testing the French rubber in Mugello in June.

“It wasn't similar. It was exactly the same as I had in Mugello at the Michelin test. When it was not completely straight with some banking with the front suddenly pass a bump and lock the front.

“It's this where I'm struggling more to understand where the limit is. With Bridgestone I was able to brake really deep. It's there where I'm struggling more. Yesterday with the crash was completely different.

“Of course it's better to be like Dani who didn't crash with the Michelin tyres. You know I didn't try to push 100 percent. I think many riders didn't push. If you're not really concentrated or focused it's really easy to lose the front. It's better to understand now than during the season.”
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Valencia MotoGP Test: Rossi: Yamaha ‘bit more in trouble’ with Michelin 11 November 2015
"It looks like with the Michelin we are a bit more in trouble. Especially in corner entry and weight distribution" - Valentino Rossi.

2015 MotoGP title runner-up Valentino Rossi believes Yamaha are playing catch-up following the change to Michelin tyres.

With Rossi and team-mate Jorge Lorenzo embroiled in a close championship fight during the second half of the season, Yamaha didn't conduct as many Michelin tests as some of its rivals.

At the close of this week's Valencia test, in which the top Yamaha of Lorenzo was fifth and Rossi seventh, the Italian said:

“For me we need to continue to work because it looks like with the Michelin we are a bit more in trouble. Especially in corner entry and weight distribution. For sure, this is just the first step. But it is not so bad because anyway we improved one-second from yesterday, so we have just to continue to work.

“Today we improved very much the feeling with the tyres, especially the front. This made me quite optimistic. It means that if we work and make some more kilometres we can fix the problems. For sure we have lot to do because the Yamaha uses quite a lot the front tyre, so it needs the right balance.”

Rossi, who set a best lap time 0.438s behind Honda pace setter Marc Marquez, also felt progress had been made with development of the single ECU system.

“About electronic from yesterday to today already the situation improved a lot. It is still not at the same level [as this year's factory software] for sure, but it looks like we can improve I think quite quickly.

“Engine brake and especially acceleration, anti-wheelie, traction control. Everything is a bit worse, but we expect. So is normal.”

Shortly after seeing a tenth world title snatched way in Sunday's final round, Rossi said his 'motivation to try again' would be one of the most important factors for next season.

Crash.net asked Rossi how he felt after this test.

“Sincerely, yeah, was quite difficult," Rossi replied. "And is still quite difficult. But today is already a little bit better. So it will be important this winter to try to recover enough power, be relaxed and especially recover enough motivation for come back at the top.”

It is not yet clear when Rossi will be back on track, with Yamaha yet to decide if they will join their rivals in holding a private test at the end of this month.

“Yamaha haven't decided. We don't know if we go or don't go. I don't think that one test at the end of November change everything in the championship! But if Yamaha decide to go we are ready.”
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Valencia MotoGP Test: Lorenzo: We've made good step forward 11 November 2015
'Today we focused on the electronics, as our lap times are still half a second slower than the lap time we made with the old version... I felt that it was much better and we improved quite a bit' - Jorge Lorenzo.

Jorge Lorenzo used the new 2016 control ECU throughout the final day of the official MotoGP test at Valencia in Spain and noted a 'big improvement' as the MotoGP World Champion finished fifth fastest overall.

Lorenzo, riding the 2016 YZR-M1 with the fuel tank now located towards the rear of the bike and using new front forks, clocked a best time of 1m 31.282s as he finished 0.222s down on Marc Marquez on Wednesday.

The 28-year-old briefly held the top spot before Marquez took over on his Repsol Honda and completed 48 laps in all at the Ricardo Tormo circuit to an end in his final outing of 2015 before the winter break.

“The 2016 machine we tried in Aragon is the bike that's adapted to the Michelin tyres to get the best performance. The fuel tank is on the back, behind the seat, before it was in front of the rider,” said Lorenzo.

“Today we focused on the electronics, as our lap times are still half a second slower than the lap time we made with the old version. The other thing we worked on is the front tyres of Michelin, which we are still trying to improve.

“I felt for example that under braking the rear is very grippy in the centre of the tyre but when you start leaning with the front whilst still braking, the front gives you more instability and you can't push so much with the brakes,” Lorenzo added.

“I used the 2016 electronics all day. Yesterday neither the power nor the engine brake was giving the best performance, so they worked on that for the next morning and today I felt that it was much better and we improved quite a bit during the whole day.”
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MotoGP Valencia: Casey Stoner to test for Ducati? 11 November 2015
“[Casey Stoner's] contract with Honda expires at the end of this year and obviously if there is a chance to do something together we would love to do it...”

Retired double MotoGP champion Casey Stoner could be set for a return to Ducati.

The Australian claimed the factory's only MotoGP title in 2007, moving to Honda in 2011 where he claimed a second crown before retiring at the end of 2012.

Stoner has since taken part in MotoGP test riding duties for the Japanese factory, plus an entry in this year's Suzuka 8 Hours, where he was injured after the throttle stuck open.

Significantly, the 30-year-old also offered to fill-in for injured former Repsol Honda team-mate Dani Pedrosa earlier this year - but was surprisingly turned down by HRC.


Rumours of a Stoner return to Ducati began with a Speedweek report during the flyaway races. With questions from the media intensifying, Ducati Corse Sporting Director Paolo Ciabatti visited the media room in Valencia on Wednesday, where he told us:

“As you know Casey has been a hero for Ducati, winning many GP races and the world title in 2007. Obviously he moved to Honda and has been working with them, but still he is in the heart of all the Ducati fans and has a good relationship with many Ducati people.

“So let's see what the future brings. We know the contract with Honda expires at the end of this year and obviously if there is a chance to do something together we would love to do it. That is the only thing I can say.”

So far from a denial - and why pick words so carefully, and refuse to answer any further questions, if Stoner returning isn't a real possibility? - but the Honda contract means there is unlikely to be anything official until January 1.

It is not thought that Stoner would consider a return to MotoGP full time, but a wild-card alongside some Ducati testing duties seems to be of interest...

Ducati have not won a MotoGP race since Stoner's departure.

Valencia MotoGP Test: Marquez: Stoner Ducati speculation 'interesting' 11 November 2015
Marc Marquez says he has no doubt Casey Stoner would be 'fast' should the Aussie return to MotoGP in 2016 as a test rider for Ducati.

Repsol Honda's Marc Marquez says he expects Casey Stoner to be 'fast' should the Aussie return to MotoGP with Ducati in 2016 as a wildcard rider.

Stoner, who clinched the Italian manufacturer's sole premier class title in 2007, retired at the end of the 2012 season after securing his second MotoGP crown with Repsol Honda.

The 30-year-old has undertaken testing duties for HRC since hanging up his leathers but his contract expires at the end of this year and speculation has been mounting over a possible return to Ducati as a test rider, with the potential for Stoner to compete in some races next year as a wildcard.

Responding the news on the final day of the official Valencia MotoGP test in Spain, two-time MotoGP champion Marquez said he was 'happy' that Stoner hasn't completely cut his ties with the sport.

“Interesting, interesting… of course Casey stop very soon and of course and for sure he will be a good rider if he does many, many tests,” said the 22-year-old.

“I'm happy for him because looks like he stills keeps the motivation and I think he will be fast.”

Asked if Stoner's input had a significant bearing on the RC213V raced by Marquez and Dani Pedrosa, the young Spaniard added: “The thing with Casey and Honda is that he didn't make many, many tests; he test – I don't know exactly – but maybe three days, stop long time, so you know, for test rider you must follow all the items and all the things, but normally when he tests the bike the thing is that he was fast.”

Stoner was leading this year's Suzuka 8-Hours race in Japan but suffered a fractured shoulder blade and broken tibia after crashing when the throttle stuck open.

HRC later apologised for the malfunction and said it would cease using the throttle specification and focus on designing a new one for endurance races.

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Marc Marquez finished the two-day test on top of the timesheets as the 2016 MotoGP™ season got underway in Valencia.
Having spent most of Tuesday at the Comunitat Valenciana – Ricardo Tormo adjusting to the new Michelin tyres and specification changes to next year’s bikes, Wednesday saw a number of riders get a chance to work on their 2016 bikes and setups and focus on gathering data for next year. Every single MotoGP™ rider improved their times from Tuesday as they continued to adapt to the new machinery, with Repsol Honda’s Marc Marquez setting the quickest time over the two days, a 1’31.060.

Marquez improved his time by over four-tenths on Wednesday as he continued to test the 2016 Honda RC213V, going under Jorge Lorenzo’s fastest lap from the race (1'31.367) in the process, despite crashing twice over the course of the two days.

Team Suzuki Ecstar’s Maverick Vińales ended the two days in second, just 0.103s behind the pace of Marquez, after completing 57 laps on the second day. This feat was made even more impressive by the fact that Suzuki announced that they would not be debuting the 2016 GSX-RR with a seamless-shift gearbox until the Sepang test in February.

Dani Pedrosa (Repsol Honda) was only seventeen-thousandths of a second further back in third as he completed 60 laps on Wednesday, ahead of the second GSX-RR of Aleix Espargaro (+0.152s) in fourth who put in 55 laps.

The 2015 MotoGP™ World Champion Jorge Lorenzo improved by over a half a second from Tuesday to end the day in fifth, just 0.222s behind the pace of Marquez, setting his best time on his penultimate lap from a total of 48 on Wednesday.

LCR Honda’s Cal Crutchlow (+0.434s) was the leading Satellite rider in sixth; just 0.004s ahead of Lorenzo’s teammate Valentino Rossi (+0.438s), with the Brit crashing on Wednesday as he lost the front at turn 1. The ‘Doctor’ showed that 2016 might be another close fight between the two Yamaha riders as he finished in sixth after improving by almost a second on Wednesday, ending the test just over two-tenths off the pace of Lorenzo.

Andrea Iannone (Ducati Team) ended the test in 8th as the leading Ducati ahead of Monster Yamaha Tech 3's Pol Espargaro who also crashed on Tuesday as he lost the front at turn 12, but recovered to end the test in 9th, with his teammate Bradley Smith completing the top ten.

The Avintia Racing duo of Loris Baz and Hector Barbera finished in 12th and 14th respectively on their GP14.2’s, with Scott Redding on the Octo Pramac Racing GP15 Ducati sandwiched between them in 13th. All three were quicker than the Factory Ducati of Andrea Dovizioso in 15th, with the Italian completing 62 laps on Wednesday.

Australian Jack Miller, who has switched to the Marc VDS Racing team for 2016, was 16th fastest, just ahead of Irishman Eugene Laverty on the Aspar MotoGP Team Ducati GP14.2 in 17th.

Tito Rabat (EG 0,0 Marc VDS), who is the only new face in the MotoGP™ field for 2016, finished in 18th on the combined timesheets as he made his debut in the class after making the step up from Moto2™. Laverty's new teammate Yonny Hernandez ended the test in 20th overall, sandwiched in-between the two Aprilia Racing Team Gresini bikes of Stefan Bradl (19th) and Alvaro Bautista (21st).

Over the course of the two-day test there were a number of front-end crashes for riders as they adjusted to the new demands of the Michelin tyres and spec ECU systems, but no one was injured.

The riders and teams will be back on track together at the next Official test in Sepang on the 1st February 2016.
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Testing Schedule on deck:

1 Feb Sepang
2 Feb Sepang
3 Feb Sepang
17 Feb Phillip Island
18 Feb Phillip Island
19 Feb Phillip Island
2 Mar Losail
3 Mar Losail
4 Mar Losail

On track action for the premier class resumes on the first of February in Sepang for a three day test. This is the only official test taking place at the Sepang International Circuit for the MotoGP™ World Championship before the season starts as Phillip Island and Losail will host the additional tests. Testing at three different circuits allows the teams and riders to experience a wider variety of surfaces and corner types, thus gathering more data.

Sepang looks set to be the debut of the new Aprilia, the Ducati GP16 and the first public appearance of the 2016 Suzuki GSX-RR, now featuring a seamless shift gearbox. From Malaysia, MotoGP™ teams and riders will head to Australia for three days at Phillip Island from the 17th to 19th of February. All of these tests will also be important for Michelin who become the exclusive tyre supplier to the MotoGP™ World Championship in 2016.

After the first two tests, the premier class head to Qatar from the second to fourth of March for their final official test before the 2016 MotoGP™ World Championship begins in Losail on the 17th of March.

While the premier class are in Qatar, the Moto2™ and Moto3™ World Championship riders will be in Jerez from the second to fourth of March for their first test in 2016. They will then head to Qatar for three more days of testing, from the 11th to 13th of March ahead of the first race.

Throughout this period development work will continue with official test riders as teams and factories aim to prepare fully for the 2016 battle. Riders will also be working hard on testing and improving their personal fitness in order to push from FP1 at the Qatar GP.
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Riders take to the track for the first time in 2016 for the Sepang test, with tyres and electronics the focus.

With the Movistar Yamaha MotoGP and Octo Pramac Racing Yakhnich teams having unveiled their 2016 liveries in January, the new MotoGP™ World Championship season is truly underway. Riders and teams now begin their final preparations before their first run on track in 2016, a season in which testing will be especially vital due to the large number of changes.

Michelin enter as the official tyre supplier for the premier class and Magneti Marelli implement their unified ‘spec’ software system. This means that the Open class is no more, all riders and bikes utilising the same software. All bikes will run on 22 litres of fuel and all riders will have access to the same tyres. With the Open class gone there will no longer be riders with access to a softer set of tyres. With the majority of teams starting from zero, this looks set to create one of the most level playing fields the MotoGP™ world has seen in recent years.

To overcome the new challenges posed by Michelin tyres and spec software, manufacturers are set to bring a variety of changes and upgrades for their riders. Yamaha continue to assess the difference between the more standard ‘central’ fuel tank and the innovative ‘rear’ version. With the Michelin tyres initially appearing to favour the rear, revised bike balance will be a major focus for all the teams. Yamaha sampled the Sepang circuit with Michelin tyres back in February 2015, but since then the French tyre maker has made significant changes to their rubber.

After a difficult 2015 season, Honda aim to continue to improve their engine and ease power delivery. An overly aggressive engine saw Honda riders struggle with the 2015 frame early in the year. With electronics playing a crucial role in power and engine management, Honda will be working to better understand the Magneti Marelli system’s parameters and how they may help to alter power delivery.

The past seasons have seen Ducati come on leaps and bounds, Andrea Dovizioso and Andrea Iannone scoring a total of eight podiums between them after 2014 saw Ducati score just three podiums across all their riders. Despite the progress work doesn’t stop, the Italian manufacturer looks set to debut the GP16 during the Sepang test. Casey Stoner spent several days testing the bike in a private test at the Malaysian circuit, getting his first taste of the Ducati on Michelin tyres with spec electronics.

As Yamaha, Honda and Ducati all having scored more than six concession points, awarded for podium finishes, in 2015 they will each have seven engines with development frozen once the season starts. For the likes of Suzuki and Aprilia, they will be allowed to utilise nine engines during the season without a limit on testing or development. This aims to have as many riders on as many bikes as possible fighting for victory.

With a strong debut year under their belts, Suzuki aim to continue to build their success with a heavily revised GSX-RR. Maverick Vińales, who showed great pace at the end of season Valencia test, debuted a new seamless gearbox during a private Sepang test late in 2015. During their debut year, Suzuki struggled somewhat for top end speed and better high-end performance will be another focus for the Japanese brand.

Aprilia had looked set to debut their all-new MotoGP™ machine in Sepang, but setbacks have made this goal unobtainable. Alvaro Bautista and Stefan Bradl will be in attendance as part of the Aprilia test team, mounted on the 2015 RS-GP to gather more data. A private shakedown of the new Aprilia is planned for later in the month. Aprilia’s 2016 machine looks set to be an all new motorcycle, no longer based off the RSV4 as the 2015 bike was.
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Test Day 1, 2 and 3. Sunday Jan 31, Monday Feb 1 and Tues Feb 2. For your specific time zone go to main motogp site. For my zone (Eastern Time Zone) its 21:00 (9pm) to 5am all 3 days, wonder how late ill stay up lol
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Looking forward to seeing where all the teams are at. Hopefully Suzuki can be more competitive this year.

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Looking forward to seeing where all the teams are at. Hopefully Suzuki can be more competitive this year.
yup, Maverick is hoping for Top 6 finishes, the dude has big time potential. Should be good to see the bikes out again, all the changes this season will be interesting indeed
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Who do you guys think will benefit the most from the Michelins?.

I think Pedrosa, being the smallest guy out there, may have a good chance of winning a lot of races. As long as Honda figures out their "too much horsepower problem".

Looks like riding styles will have to change again..
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Not sure really, im thinking the Ducs will be well, and yes Dani is looking good, hoping he can get off to a good start! Marc, Vale and Jorge will need to figure out their settings at their own pace. Just hope we don't see too many crashes out there...
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Casey back in the saddle again as Testing is on
Casey Stoner makes Ducati MotoGP return 30 January 2016. Casey Stoner back on a Ducati MotoGP machine
Casey Stoner, Ducati's only MotoGP champion, rode his first laps on a Desmosedici since 2010 during the start of a private test at Sepang today (Saturday).

The 30-year-old Australian - who won a second crown for Honda before retiring at the end of 2012, then participated in occasional HRC MotoGP tests and an ill-fated entry in the Suzuka 8 Hours - is returning to Ducati as a brand ambassador and test rider.

The first stage of that new role, which fans hope will extend to a possible wild-card race appearance some time this season, saw Stoner take to the Malaysian track shortly after 11am, completing a short run on last year's GP15.

Stoner is testing alongside Ducati development rider Michele Pirro - who is shaking down the new GP16, to be used by factory racers Andrea Iannone and Andrea Dovizioso next week - with test riders from Yamaha and Honda also present.

MotoGP is switching from Bridgestone to Michelin tyres and adopting a single ECU system for 2016. Stoner's only season on Michelin tyres was his rookie 2006 MotoGP campaign, with LCR Honda.

The track is open until 6pm, with Stoner and Pirro also testing tomorrow. The official MotoGP test then starts on Monday morning.



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Stoner and Pirro complete initial Sepang test

Casey Stoner was back on track with the Ducati Desmosedici GP for the first time since the Valencia GP in 2010. The 2007 and 2011 World Champion completed 54 laps of the Sepang circuit, temperatures reaching about 40°C. The Australia ran on the GP15 as he acquainted himself with the new machine as well as the vastly different Michelin tyres and spec ECU. He reportedly set a best time of 2’02.1 during his last stint of the day. With the change in technical rules and tyre supplier, there are no other times to compare Stoner’s lap to around the Malaysian track.



While much of the attention was on Stoner, Michele Pirro debuted the GP16 with a focus on testing fuel consumption.

Casey Stoner: “It was a great experience today with the Ducati Team. I honestly didn’t know what to expect, but the whole team was fantastic: I was welcomed in the best way and we worked well together. I still need a little more time to return to a competitive level and find the right feeling because I haven’t ridden a MotoGP bike for a year and haven’t been on a race bike for six months. But it was a positive first day, we immediately found a good feeling with the bikes and tyres, quicker than I would have expected. We have many things to try and I still have to get used to the bike, but overall I’m happy. The Desmosedici GP has great potential and I hope to be able to give the right feedback to Gigi and the Ducati engineers to help the two Andreas get some good results this year. I’m happy and a bit surprised with my lap time and I hope to improve it further tomorrow. It was great to be working with Gabriel Conti again together with Marco Palmerini and Gigi Dall’Igna, who have all proven true professionals today.”

Michele Pirro: “Today I only did a few laps because the program was focused on testing electrical components and fuel consumption, once my work was finished the team focused on the debut of Casey. Tomorrow we will do some finishing touches before the three-day official test on Monday. The sensation was good and already on Wednesday we were able to do a good job. I am convinced that we can achieve good results and Iannone and Dovizioso are confident too, despite the track conditions not being optimal.”
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Get up to speed, everyting you need to know before tonights Testing begins, thx to David Emmett once again, https://motomatters.com/analysis/201..._the_futu.html

in case you werent aware, good to know diff between Factory yam and Tech 3 bikes
"As is customary, the Tech 3 team receive the bikes ridden by the Movistar Yamaha team last season, though in this case, with a version of Yamaha's seamless gearbox which is a generation behind the factory bikes.

For them, too, the main focus is electronics and Michelins, though their work is harder than the factory teams. Setting the electronics up perfectly is easier for factory teams, who have plenty of data engineers to throw at analyzing the problem. At Tech 3, they have one data technician shared between two riders, rather than two data techs to each rider, meaning that the factory data techs can do four times as much as at Tech 3. This is the fate of all satellite teams, and why they are always at a disadvantage, no matter what the technical regulations. The factory teams can simply afford to throw more people at a problem, and try to solve it that way."
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Testing underway! Rossi's new lid for winter test, snowman helmet lol, he's leading the times with a 2:02.654 ,but its only 1hr in, 7 to go, everyone just getting the winter cob webs out, a lot of guys havent seen a bike since Valencia. Will try and get times posted later, cheers
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Reigning MotoGP champion Jorge Lorenzo set the fastest lap time as official 2016 MotoGP testing got underway at Sepang, in Malaysia.

The Movistar Yamaha rider set a best time of 2m 0.684s on his 32nd lap of the day, which kept him one-second clear of the field by the time rain arrived with 20-minutes of track time remaining.

Team-mate and 2015 title rival Valentino Rossi jumped into second place during the final hour, edging out Repsol Honda's Dani Pedrosa by 0.063s.

Aspar's Eugene Laverty was reported to have suffered a right hand fracture after a suspected stuck throttle at Turn 4 this afternoon. It is especially bad luck for the Irishman given he had just recovered from a left wrist fracture, plus other injuries, at November's Jerez test. - UPDATE: Laverty may only have swelling on the hand and could return for final day.

Due to the change from Bridgestone to Michelin tyres and introduction of a single ECU, many factories have substantial developments to try before settling on their 2016 race machinery.

Yamaha had several different M1s available for Jorge Lorenzo and Valentino Rossi, including the new fuel tank position, while Honda's priority is to evaluate two different engine specifications with factory stars Marc Marquez and Dani Pedrosa.

Ducati's GP16 made its debut in the hands of Andrea Iannone and Andrea Dovizioso, alongside last year's GP15, while Suzuki have three GSX-RRs available for Maverick Vinales and Aleix Espargaro; a 2016, 2015-2016 hybrid and 2015.

Although Suzuki now has a seamless shift gearbox, only the 'stage 1' version (seamless upshift only) is at Sepang. The factory hopes to debut a 'stage 2' (seamless upshift and downshift) next time in Australia.

Aprilia will still be using its 2015 bike, with the 2016 RS-GP due to be present at a private test in Qatar later this month, instead of taking part in the next official test at Phillip Island.

The satellite teams are using various forms of 2015 machinery, although the Honda entries (LCR and Marc VDS) are set to receive 2016 updates by the start of the season.

Ioda, considering a switch to WSBK, is the only team absent from this week's test although new Marc VDS signing Jack Miller is riding injured after breaking his leg in a motocross training accident last month.

Testing takes place between 10am and 6pm. Retired double world champion Casey Stoner, who made his Ducati return on Saturday at Sepang (setting a 2m 2.1s on a dirty track), will test again tomorrow...

1. = Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 0.684s [Lap 32/37]
2. ˄ Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 1.717s +1.033s [52/55]
3. ˅ Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 1.780s +1.096s [23/34]
4. ˅ Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 2m 1.811s +1.127s [29/43]
5. ˅ Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15/16) 2m 1.912s +1.228s [33/49]
6. ˄ Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 2m 2.002s +1.318s [54/59]
7. ˅ Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 2.278s +1.594s [32/50]
8. ˅ Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 2m 2.338s +1.654s [30/46]
9. ˅ Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 2m 2.539s +1.855s [22/42]
10. ˅ Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 2m 2.586s +1.902s [36/42]
11. ˄ Maverick Vińales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 2m 2.645s +1.961s [39/40]
12. ˅ Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 2.646s +1.962s [27/42]
13. ˅ Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15/16) 2m 2.650s +1.966s [31/40]
14. ˅ Yonny Hernandez COL Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 2m 2.916s +2.232s [14/44]
15. ˅ Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 3.026s +2.342s [54/55]
16. = Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici GP15/16) 2m 3.203s +2.519s [26/32]
17. ˄ Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 2m 3.204s +2.520s [57/58]
18. ˅ Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 2m 3.463s +2.779s [26/53]
19. ˅ Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 2m 3.565s +2.881s [20/27]
20. = Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 2m 3.978s +3.294s [12/39]
21. = Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 2m 4.075s +3.391s [33/34]

Key:
˄ Rider has a higher position relative to end of previous hour.
= Rider has the same position as end of previous hour.
˅ Rider has a lower position relative to end of previous hour.


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1 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Yakhnich 2:00.095 9 / 46
2 LORENZO, Jorge Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:00.155 0.060 0.060 31 / 32
3 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing 2:00.387 0.292 0.232 6 / 32
4 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 2:00.843 0.748 0.456 5 / 52
5 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 2:00.899 0.804 0.056 53 / 55
6 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:01.021 0.926 0.122 47 / 54
7 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Yakhnich 2:01.049 0.954 0.028 3 / 42
8 IANNONE, Andrea Ducati Team 2:01.052 0.957 0.003 9 / 39
9 STONER, Casey Ducati Team 2:01.103 1.008 0.051 37 / 45
10 SMITH, Bradley Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.107 1.012 0.004 58 / 59
11 VIŃALES, Maverick Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:01.421 1.326 0.314 4 / 59
12 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:01.475 1.380 0.054 4 / 36
13 HERNANDEZ, Yonny Aspar MotoGP Team 2:01.644 1.549 0.169 7 / 41
14 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 2:01.723 1.628 0.079 12 / 35
15 ESPARGARO, Pol Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.992 1.897 0.269 6 / 32
16 ESPARGARO, Aleix Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:02.092 1.997 0.100 34 / 39
17 RABAT, Tito EG 0.0 Marc VDS 2:02.328 2.233 0.236 5 / 54
18 BRADL, Stefan Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:02.372 2.277 0.044 4 / 45
19 BAZ, Loris Avintia Racing 2:02.611 2.516 0.239 12 / 26
20 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Test Team 2:02.691 2.596 0.080 35 / 43
21 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:02.876 2.781 0.185 4 / 52


Guess Honda has some work to do :/

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Thx for posting the Day 2 times Nuithari . Of course the big news yesterday was the massive straightaway crash by Loris Baz. I went to bed after the second red flag so I saw it live. Still amazed he was able to walk away from this upwards of 300km/hr full out and the rear tire blew out!!! Dylan was doing an interview and saw everything happen in front of him, the look on his face said it all. Baz just has a small elbow injury, Astars most def did their job here!! These guys are not human, they have accidents (Big ones) and get right back on the back without batting an eye!! nuts !
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Wow...wicked crash, can't believe the tire just split down the middle like that. Glad he's ok!
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The amazing thing to me about these tests is that there are new software, new bikes, former riders, new tires, and times are being set under the official track record time of 2"1.150'
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