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Moto GP 2016 Round 9 Sachsenring ***SPOILER***

Looking forward to racing after a 2wk break. We are at the half way mark of the season now. Marc looking very good, Jorge and Vale will certainly want to cut the gap down, lets hope we see no more DNF's.

About the circuit
Car and bike races have been held on closed public roads in the area around the town of Chemnitz, Germany since the 1920s and were still taking place until as recently as 1990. It was decided, however, that the five mile course through such a densely populated area was no longer suitable and a new circuit was built five miles west of Chemnitz in 1996. Although mainly used as a driver training centre and road transport safety station, Sachsenring first hosted MotoGP in 1998 and many improvements have taken place since then, including a drastic layout enhancement in 2001. Numerous tight corners make it one of the slower tracks on the calendar but there is never any shortage of close racing action.

2015 Podium: MM,DP,VR

Circuit Records:
Circuit Records
Fastest Lap 2015 Marc MARQUEZ 1'20,336
Circuit Record 2015 Marc MARQUEZ 1'21.530
Best Pole 2015 Marc MARQUEZ 1'20.36
Top Speed 2015 Andrea DOVIZIOSO 292.2

Current Points:
Pos. Rider Bike Nation Points
1 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 145
2 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 121
3 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 103
4 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 86
5 Maverick VIÑALES Suzuki SPA 79
6 Pol ESPARGARO Yamaha SPA 72
7 Hector BARBERA Ducati SPA 58
8 Andrea IANNONE Ducati ITA 52
9 Aleix ESPARGARO Suzuki SPA 49
10 Eugene LAVERTY Ducati IRL 48
11 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 43
12 Stefan BRADL Aprilia GER 37
13 Jack MILLER Honda AUS 33
14 Scott REDDING Ducati GBR 32
15 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 32
16 Alvaro BAUTISTA Aprilia SPA 29
17 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati ITA 24
18 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda GBR 20
19 Michele PIRRO Ducati ITA 19
20 Tito RABAT Honda SPA 18
21 Loris BAZ Ducati FRA 8
22 Yonny HERNANDEZ Ducati COL 3



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MotoGP » MotoGP Germany: Michelin to debut asymmetric front 11 July 2016
"It would be nice to have a straightforward weekend, but if you want that then Sachsenring is not the place to go!”

Michelin to debut asymmetric front
MotoGP Germany: Michelin to debut asymmetric front
Michelin will respond to the unique challenge of the Sachsenring, venue for this weekend's German MotoGP, by providing asymmetric front tyres for the first time this season.

The tight and twisty circuit is heavily biased towards left-hand turns. However the fastest and most daunting corner is the downhill the right-hand Turn 11 'waterfall' plunge (pictured).

As a result, the left shoulder of the front tyre will feature a harder rubber compound than the right. Both a soft and hard version of the asymmetric will be available, plus a medium compound symmetrical front slick.

To match the front allocation Michelin will will offer a rear slick which also features a harder left shoulder in its asymmetrical design. Again designed to cope with the fast lefts, this tyre will also need a softer right side to heat up quickly. It will be available in medium and hard versions.

“After the excitement and diverse conditions we had last time at Assen, it would be nice to have a straightforward weekend, but if you want that then Sachsenring is not the place to go!” said Piero Taramasso, Manager of Michelin's Two-Wheel Motorsport Group.

“It is a very demanding circuit and the layout – with its long left-hand corners – generates a lot of heat that the tyres will have to contend with. With this in mind we have created completely new compounds designed especially for this track.

“This will be the first time we have had asymmetric rear tyres where the left is harder to cope with the high temperatures and it will also feature a soft right-hand-side to heat up rapidly for the sharp, slow right-hand corner that comes at the beginning of each lap.

“This follows a lot of left turns and the start/finish straight – so it will need to get temperature very quickly to give the riders the grip they need. Sachsenring will also signal the first time we have provided a front asymmetric tyre.

“Sachsenring is another circuit where we can have variable weather – similar to Assen – so we have to be prepared for that, but no matter what the conditions are, the huge German crowd will certainly have a good time, as this is one of the big party races of the season.”
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MotoGP Germany: Marc Marquez: 'We’ve learned from the past' 11 July 2016
"We've learned from the past and we're approaching this season race-by-race, trying to be ready and make the most of what we have and what the situation requires" - Marc Marquez.
MotoGP title leader Marc Marquez hasn't been beaten at the Sachsenring since a 125cc race back in 2009.

If the Repsol Honda rider can extend his winning streak to seven this weekend he will go into the summer break having pushed his world championship advantage over the psychological 25-points, meaning he could afford one non-score and still keep the lead.

“We're going to the German GP aiming for a podium position and of course possibly to fight for the win,” Marquez said. “The Sachsenring is normally a very good track for me that I like very much, maybe because it has so many left-hand corners, a bit like a dirt track!

“On the other hand, it's another one on the calendar where the weather has sometimes played a crucial role in the past, so we'll see how it goes there.”

Marquez's season began with victory in two of the opening three races, then rostrums in four of the following five rounds.

By contrast, Yamaha rivals Jorge Lorenzo and Valentino Rossi have both suffered multiple non-scores - a trap Marquez fell into one year ago - and start this weekend 24 and 42 points behind the Spaniard in the standings.

“We've learned from the past and we're approaching this season race-by-race, trying to be ready and make the most of what we have and what the situation requires,” said Marquez, who pointed to his head after settling for a 'safe' second place to Jack Miller last time at Assen, but is still eagerly seeking technical updates to his RC213V.

“In any case I'm happy we'll be back in action shortly and I'll do my best to get another positive result before the summer break.”

This time last season Marquez had 89 (compared with 145) points and was fourth in the world championship, 74-points from the top.

Marquez's team-mate Dani Pedrosa has also claimed six previous grand prix wins at Sachsenring, albeit with his most recent in 2012. Pedrosa is fourth in the world championship, with two podiums this season.

“I like the Sachsenring very much; it's definitely one of my favourite tracks on the calendar," Pedrosa said. "I have very good memories there, and together with my team, we'll try to make the best use of what we've learned from the last races.

"It was a pity that we didn't get a better result in Assen, where our strategy was perfect for the first part of the race, but the positive is that we know we've worked well in demanding conditions. We'll try to do the same in Germany.”
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FInally race week again! 2 weeks is a long time!

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Looking forward to this race, it does feel like its been a long time already. Rossi needs to close the gap!

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yeah races too spaced out. I was sure Rossi would take the win in the rain :( Im rootin for him but the prophetic bubble that resides in my head says "no" its Jorges' turn. Blown engine was BS!!! If he dosnt make it happen next year with Lorenzo on a duke Im afraid #10 is in the toilet.
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looks like cold/wet weather this weekend there, Sunday looks dry though, Well at least BEER will be flowing, lol my gawd :) Germans like there beer
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"Noch ein bier!" Man a German bratwurst, beer and watching MotoGP live sounds amazing. Has anybody been to the German GP here before?

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I think as long as MM93 keeps his bike upright, his lead will lengthen. JL99 historically struggles at Sachsenring, and while the weather impacted the first two practices, he hasn't shown any signs of overcoming those struggles. The other Honda and Yamaha riders also had meh sessions. In fact, if FP3 is a wet session, DP26, VR46, and JL99 could all be in Q1, fighting for the two spots in Q2.

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FP1 - 2 Results:
A short but incident packed FP1 at the German MotoGP saw Scott Redding, Jorge Lorenzo and then Stefan Bradl all fall at the notorious Turn 11 'Waterfall' corner in the opening minutes.

Lorenzo underwent checks on his left hand, which ruled out any fractures.


Rain spots, combined with cold temperatures, then prompted most riders to stay in the pits.

Loris Baz is returning from foot injuries at Mugello...

1. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 23.702s [Lap 6/7] 293km/h (Top Speed)
2. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 24.116s +0.414s [6/7] 286km/h
3. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 24.157s +0.455s [5/7] 288km/h
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 24.279s +0.577s [5/6] 288km/h
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 24.352s +0.650s [5/6] 291km/h
6. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 24.487s +0.785s [7/8] 287km/h
7. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 24.592s +0.890s [5/6] 286km/h
8. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 25.141s +1.439s [6/8] 266km/h
9. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 25.224s +1.522s [4/6] 283km/h
10. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 25.282s +1.580s [5/7] 285km/h
11. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 25.313s +1.611s [5/6] 277km/h
12. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 25.353s +1.651s [5/5] 281km/h
13. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 25.384s +1.682s [5/7] 283km/h
14. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 25.388s +1.686s [6/10] 275km/h
15. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 25.418s +1.716s [5/6] 285km/h
16. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 26.369s +2.667s [3/4] 281km/h
17. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 26.623s +2.921s [5/7] 282km/h
18. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 26.822s +3.120s [5/7] 283km/h
19. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 27.168s +3.466s [6/7] 280km/h
20. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 27.521s +3.819s [2/2] 278km/h
Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) No time [0/0]

Maverick Vinales puts Suzuki on top of the timesheets after Friday practice for the German MotoGP at Sachsenring,

Earlier, Vinales and the Tito Rabat made it five riders to fall at at the notorious Waterfall corner today. Vinales was later demoted from P1 by Marc Marquez - but returned to the track and retook the top spot in the closing minutes.

World champion Jorge Lorenzo was back on track after precautionary checks on his hand after falling in FP1.

Weather conditions were still cold, with occasional spots of rain early in the session.

Loris Baz is returning from foot injuries at Mugello...

1. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 22.161s [Lap 16/17] 289km/h (Top Speed)
2. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 22.381s +0.220s [19/20] 297km/h
3. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 22.775s +0.614s [14/18] 287km/h
4. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 22.817s +0.656s [17/20] 286km/h
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 22.930s +0.769s [17/17] 296km/h
6. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 22.953s +0.792s [15/19] 287km/h
7. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 23.015s +0.854s [20/20] 288km/h
8. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 23.053s +0.892s [16/19] 289km/h
9. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 23.061s +0.900s [22/22] 289km/h
10. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 23.123s +0.962s [16/16] 287km/h
11. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 23.400s +1.239s [18/24] 289km/h
12. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 23.460s +1.299s [20/20] 289km/h
13. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 23.485s +1.324s [9/17] 285km/h
14. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 23.534s +1.373s [9/19] 287km/h
15. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 23.740s +1.579s [8/18] 290km/h
16. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 23.824s +1.663s [11/13] 286km/h
17. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 23.958s +1.797s [16/19] 289km/h
18. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 24.116s +1.955s [13/15] 287km/h
19. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 24.746s +2.585s [20/20] 281km/h
20. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 24.911s +2.750s [9/12] 286km/h
21. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 25.049s +2.888s [15/18] 285km/h
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MotoGP Germany: Valentino Rossi: 'All the Yamahas are struggling' 15 July 2016
“I have the clear feeling if I try more, I can lose the front” - Valentino Rossi.
Arguably the fastest rider at the last three races, Valentino Rossi began the German MotoGP weekend down in 14th place after Friday practice.

Unexpectedly cold conditions seemed to hit all of the Yamaha riders especially hard. Tech 3 riders Pol Espargaro and Bradley Smith were eleventh and twelfth, with Rossi's team-mate Jorge Lorenzo down in 16th after being one of five riders to fall at Turn 11.

In order to avoid Qualifying 1, the Yamaha riders must break into the top ten in Saturday morning's FP3 session.

“It was a difficult day because the weather was very bad. This made everything more difficult, and also more dangerous, because also the soft option for the front [tyre] is a bit too hard for this temperature,” Rossi said.

“This morning, I had a quite good feeling, but after it started to rain. In the afternoon, we tried something different and also I have to work only with used tyres, rear and front.

“But anyway, our potential is nothing special. Looks like today, all the Yamahas are struggling with the front. We don't have enough feeling with the front, especially on the right, especially at Turn 11, but also on the other right corners.

“At the end, I wasn't able to make a lap pushing at 100%. So I am in a bad position.

“I never have the feeling to push. I have the clear feeling if I try more, I can lose the front. The Turn 11 is a very dangerous point, very fast, so maybe it's better to wait a little bit and hope for a better condition tomorrow.

“We have to try to be faster and more competitive.”

The Sachsenring is the slowest circuit on the calendar and offers a unique challenge for the riders.

“This track is a particular track because it's very tight, especially the first part and it is the only place where you stay 25 seconds on the left," Rossi explained. "And sincerely, it is physically very demanding, because staying for a long time on the left is difficult. Also the track is short and you have to do 30 laps in the race.

“But for me Assen, or other big and fast tracks, are more difficult. In the end, this track is not so bad, the bigger problem is it goes left, left, left... and then right. So every lap we arrive [at turn 11] is very scary. Apart from that, the rest is good, I like the track.”

Rossi starts this weekend - the midway point of the season - having slipped 18 points from Lorenzo and 42 from Honda's Marc Marquez due to his fall in the wet at Assen. Marquez was third fastest on Friday.
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MotoGP Germany: Lorenzo: 'We are not competitive in any area' 15 July 2016
“All the Yamahas struggled. We are not competitive in any area. Braking, the middle of the corner and acceleration” – Jorge Lorenzo.
Jorge Lorenzo avoided injury in a fast Turn 11 fall during the opening minutes of the German MotoGP weekend at the Sachsenring.

But that was about the only good news for the reigning world champion on Friday, which he finished down in 16th place and with his Yamaha 'not competitive in any area'.

“I'm well. I don't have any injuries, any broken bones and I can ride like normal,” began Lorenzo, whose accident occurred moments after Scott Redding and just before Stefan Bradl had also lost the front at the same turn.

“The tarmac was very cold and I entered [Turn 11] slightly faster than on my previous lap. Maybe some little degrees of difference in lean angle and then the front closed. I was much slower than last year, but the conditions and the tyres were not the same.”

A total of five riders took a Friday trip down the 'Waterfall' corner, one of the most notorious turns on the MotoGP calendar due to its fast, off-camber character preceded by a long tyre-cooling sequence of left handers.

“This corner is very fast, one of the fastest in the championship, with off-camber, and you arrive after so many corners on the left side,” Lorenzo confirmed.

Michelin has rolled out two new asymmetric front tyres, with softer rubber on the right, for its first Sachsenring appearance as official supplier. However, Lorenzo believes the selection was still too hard for the conditions.

“I believe that for these conditions - especially this morning, this afternoon was a little hotter - even with the softest tyre option, still the [tyres] were too hard,” he said.

“I went 20km/h slower than last year and much less lean angle but I crashed anyway. In the rest of the corners the problem is much less, but still you need to be very careful, especially in the morning.”

Whilst it is easy to suggest the early accident dented Lorenzo's confidence, especially following such a miserable wet race at Assen, all the Yamaha riders struggled badly on Friday.

Tech 3's Pol Espargaro was best of the M1s in eleventh place (+1.239s), with team-mate Bradley Smith twelfth and Lorenzo's team-mate Valentino Rossi 14th.

With only the top ten advancing directly to Qualifying 2, the Yamaha quartet will be forced to push hard in Saturday morning's FP3.

“I'm ok,” Lorenzo insisted, when asked about his confidence. “I'm sure that if tomorrow we would race at Le Mans or Mugello I would be fast, I would be competitive. But just a combination of some not-good factors that make me slow.

“Today we saw that all the Yamahas struggled with these conditions. No Yamaha was in the top ten and I struggled a little bit more because with no grip and after the crash this morning it was difficult to push and to trust the bike.

“At this moment we are not competitive in any area. Neither braking, the middle of the corner - because the electronic together with low grip is not reacting smoothly - and then also in acceleration we don't have grip.

“That's why we were are 1.5s slower.”

Fortunately warmer weather is forecast for Saturday, but with the threat of rain on Sunday.

Lorenzo confirmed he tried the M1 with the fuel tank further to the rear, but it was hard to draw any conclusions.

“Today was not the right day to try. You can feel a little bit of difference but still we don't have a clear mind to decide, but it is not a big difference.”

Lorenzo is 24 points from Honda's Marc Marquez, who was third fastest on Friday.
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Marquez with pole again. He is taking pole position at an almost 60% clip in MotoGP. Looks like the favorite to win 7 races in a row here in Germany. Don't know where he's more dominant, the Sachsenring or COTA.


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Marquez with pole again. He is taking pole position at an almost 60% clip in MotoGP. Looks like the favorite to win 7 races in a row here in Germany. Don't know where he's more dominant, the Sachsenring or COTA.


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The top ten riders after FP3 (combined times) receive direct access to the second and final part of this afternoon's qualifying session.

world champion Jorge Lorenzo is among those who will be forced to take part in Qualifying 1...

FP3:
1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 21.552s [Lap 20/23] 290km/h (Top Speed)
2. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 21.659s +0.107s [22/24] 297km/h
3. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 21.820s +0.268s [21/21] 291km/h
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 21.880s +0.328s [25/25] 290km/h
5. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 21.910s +0.358s [22/23] 290km/h
6. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 21.950s +0.398s [20/22] 293km/h
7. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 22.064s +0.512s [19/21] 289km/h
8. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 22.069s +0.517s [20/22] 290km/h
9. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 22.072s +0.520s [18/20] 295km/h
10. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 22.127s +0.575s [21/22] 288km/h
11. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 22.190s +0.638s [18/21] 290km/h
12. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 22.226s +0.674s [21/24] 289km/h
13. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 22.308s +0.756s [21/21] 287km/h
14. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 22.326s +0.774s [22/24] 290km/h
15. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 22.453s +0.901s [17/21] 290km/h
16. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 22.656s +1.104s [21/23] 289km/h
17. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 22.763s +1.211s [18/20] 289km/h
18. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 22.987s +1.435s [22/22] 290km/h
19. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 23.453s +1.901s [23/27] 284km/h
20. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 24.060s +2.508s [17/18] 284km/h
21. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 24.096s +2.544s [17/19] 288km/h

Qualifying 1 - for those outside the top ten after third free practice, including Jorge Lorenzo - will now get underway...

1. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 22.005s [Lap 13/18] 297km/h (Top Speed)
2. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 22.131s +0.126s [7/16] 288km/h
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 22.132s +0.127s [13/18] 292km/h
4. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 22.258s +0.253s [15/17] 289km/h
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 22.527s +0.522s [12/16] 295km/h
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 22.531s +0.526s [18/18] 290km/h
7. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 22.593s +0.588s [7/17] 288km/h
8. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 22.693s +0.688s [15/16] 286km/h
9. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 22.738s +0.733s [12/17] 290km/h
10. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 22.743s +0.738s [13/16] 290km/h
11. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 22.896s +0.891s [9/15] 290km/h
12. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 22.922s +0.917s [13/18] 287km/h
13. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 22.945s +0.940s [16/17] 288km/h
14. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 23.108s +1.103s [8/15] 290km/h
15. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 23.124s +1.119s [13/14] 286km/h
16. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 23.124s +1.119s [11/13] 289km/h
17. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 23.182s +1.177s [12/15] 287km/h
18. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 23.267s +1.262s [13/17] 289km/h
19. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 23.290s +1.285s [13/15] 288km/h
20. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 24.118s +2.113s [15/16] 284km/h
21. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 24.233s +2.228s [9/14] 282km/h
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Marc Marquez takes pole position for the German MotoGP at Sachsenring ahead of a shock second for Avintia Ducati's Hector Barbera (who made the best of a tow form Marquez and later Andrea Iannone), with Valentino Rossi completing the front row in third.

Jorge Lorenzo - who fell at the end of Qualifying 1 - then suffered his third accident of the weekend in the closing minutes of Qualifying 2. Unable to return, the world champion was pushed down to 11th by the chequered flag.


Iannone suffered a low speed fall on his first flying lap...

Qualifying 2:
1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 21.160s [Lap 8/8]
2. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 21.572s +0.412s [8/8]
3. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 21.666s +0.506s [4/9]
4. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 21.666s +0.506s [7/8]
5. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 21.738s +0.578s [6/7]
6. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 21.784s +0.624s [9/9]
7. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 21.858s +0.698s [9/9]
8. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 21.883s +0.723s [9/9]
9. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 21.890s +0.730s [7/7]
10. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 21.892s +0.732s [9/10]
11. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 22.088s +0.928s [3/5]
12. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 22.346s +1.186s [6/8]

Qualifying 1:
13. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 21.783s 289km/h
14. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 21.994s 290km/h
15. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 22.236s 290km/h
16. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 22.382s 286km/h
17. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 22.493s 287km/h
18. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 22.567s 289km/h
19. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 22.670s 290km/h
20. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 22.860s 285km/h
21. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 23.075s 281km/h
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Jorge really not having a good weekend at all, he will be lucky to make podium imo.
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happy to see this again! :) The Yam's are sucking here, except for Vale, he's finding a way, hope to see both on the podium!
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I think at this point Yamaha branded JL99 as lost cause since it's his last year with them. No way they'll throw the magic dust although he's the closest to the man on top.
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WOW, what an epic move from Marc and his team!!! congrats to Cal and Dovi nice to see them on the podium !!! 48 point lead now oh boy. Not sure why Vale didnt pit earlier?


Conditions had looked to be improving after the Moto2™ World Championship race, but brief showers of heavy rain hit the Sachsenring as MotoGP™ riders waited in the pits. The race was declared wet and flashbacks of the Dutch GP ran through the mind of every rider on the grid. Would it be Miller time again or would Jorge Lorenzo (Movistar Yamaha MotoGP) finally get to grips with the Sachsenring? When racing got underway there were almost no further signs of rain, making tyre choice more important than ever.

As the race began Andrea Dovizioso (Ducat Team) and Valentino Rossi (Movistar Yamaha MotoGP) emerged as the two favourites. Dovizioso had opened up a lead of almost two seconds as the track began to dry, riders considering a bike change. Andrea Iannone (Ducati Team) was the first rider to pit for intermediate tyres on lap 13. Over the course of the following laps most of the field followed suit, choosing a variety of slick and intermediate combinations.

Marc Marquez (Repsol Honda Team) was simply unable to match the pace of the leading riders as the race began, battling with Hector Barbera (Avintia Racing) for fifth. He was clearly struggling, running off at Turn 8 and lucky to stay upright. On lap 17 he entered the pits for slicks. It proved a masterstroke as his lap times were immediately four seconds faster than those on wets leading the race, his pace only getting faster. With six laps to go he took the lead and never looked back, going on to take a seventh straight victory at the Sachsenring.

Lap after lap the track dried and lap after lap Cal Crutchlow (LCR Honda) got faster and faster. The Brit found himself in fourth on the 19th lap as several riders began to pit, Crutchlow still pushing his wets around. He followed Dovizioso into the pits, re-joining with his former teammate to battle for the podium. Having opted for slicks, Crutchlow found himself battling with Scott Redding (Octo Pramac Yakhnich) for second place. There was no love lost between the Brits, Crutchlow breaking Redding to secure second place and return to the podium for the first time since Argentina in 2015.

Known for his ability in the wet, Andrea Dovizioso shot straight into podium contention as the race began, pressuring for the lead. ‘Desmo Dovi’ sat behind Danilo Petrucci (Octo Pramac Yakhnich), gifted the lead when the Italian fell on lap 11. He continued to forge ahead on wets, his lead rapidly depleting. After multiple laps struggling on wets he finally made the call to put, prompting every rider behind to follow him. The group re-joining to battle for third place, unable to match the pace of Crutchlow the factory Ducati man did well to pass Redding on the final lap and take his second podium of the year.

Jorge Lorenzo’s (Movistar Yamaha MotoGP) weekend didn’t get any better. The World Champion was inside the top ten as the race got underway, but as in Assen he began to fade as the race went on and slowly dropped back. It was even worse than in Assen, Lorenzo taking a single point for 15th place.
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Pos. Rider Bike Nation Points
1 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 170
2 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 122
3 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 111
4 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 96
5 Maverick VIÑALES Suzuki SPA 83
6 Pol ESPARGARO Yamaha SPA 72
7 Hector BARBERA Ducati SPA 65
8 Andrea IANNONE Ducati ITA 63
9 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 59
10 Eugene LAVERTY Ducati IRL 53
11 Aleix ESPARGARO Suzuki SPA 51
12 Scott REDDING Ducati GBR 45
13 Jack MILLER Honda AUS 42
14 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda GBR 40
15 Stefan BRADL Aprilia GER 37
16 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 35
17 Alvaro BAUTISTA Aprilia SPA 35
18 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati ITA 24
19 Michele PIRRO Ducati ITA 19
20 Tito RABAT Honda SPA 18
21 Loris BAZ Ducati FRA 8
22 Yonny HERNANDEZ Ducati COL 3
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Marquez definitely pulled off the strategic move of the season. I know there's no radio comms, and no weather reports on the bike, but being an armchair racer is easy - as soon as the dry line became even slightly prominent, coming in was the right move, and MM93 had perfect timing. Of course, the teams were the ones who had to choose between slicks and intermediates (poor SR45, his team chose intermediates). Excellent race from CC35, he was crushing it before the track dried out, and got a well deserved podium after swapping. Once again, being an armchair racer, gotta wonder why Rossi didn't come in sooner. He needed to do something to make up big ground in the championship, and staying out on wets on a drying track with half the race left wasn't it.
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Is JL99's result due to diminished support from Yamaha? I'm not so sure I think so. I think it goes without saying that he won't get everything that Rossi gets from here on out (and never had, to hear Jorge tell it), but I have to think Yamaha wants another championship, and they don't care if it's Lorenzo or Rossi who brings it home. Their slim chances just got a whole lot slimmer, as they'll need a serious turnaround in the 2nd half, but it can be done.

MM93 has learned some lessons, and he's not trying to win every race by taking unnecessary risks - VR46 and JL99 can take advantage of that, but only if they can put Marquez in positions where he is forced to accept a lesser result. Rossi didn't do that today; instead Marquez beat him to the punch by like 5 laps. JL likes to claim that it was the tires' fault, but it looked to me like he was a meek rider all weekend, completely full of hopelessness. I just don't think that's Yamaha's doing, I think they're preparing him for the races same as usual, he just isn't performing. Has he checked out? I think that'd be an easier pill for me to swallow, rather than thinking Yamaha isn't providing support.
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I was wondering the same thing. Diminished support, torn team as half will stay and the other half will join Ducati. Doesn't help I guess. But it's probably a combination of the two. JL99 has been lacking anytime it was wet this season. He just doesn't trust it.

Grats to MM93 though, well played!

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yeah will be extremely tough for Jorge and Vale to surpass Marc now, not saying it can't happed but with the new and improved Marc this season being able to have 2 DNF's and still be right in it is huge! his championship to loose at this point. Re Jorge and the wet, its not a good situation, he is just not 100% when in the wet, his Assen crash then re injuring his shoulder plates, really messed with his confidence...
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assuming you guys heard about the "bike swapping - mech holding in Marcs clutch" issue, well then checked the data and although the mech did indeed hold in clutch the bike was in N which is all that matters here as per Dorna.

MotoGP Germany: Race Direction: Marquez bike swap legal
18 July 2016

"The bike is in neutral when he arrives and they are following exactly the directive that I've given them" - Mike Webb, MotoGP race director.

Images of Marc Marquez's mechanic holding the clutch lever as the Spaniard changed bikes during Sunday's German MotoGP caused some to jump to the wrong conclusion.

A directive issued to teams prior to the event stated that, for safety reasons, the rider must put the second bike into gear himself when he switches machines.

Previously the second bike could be put into gear before the rider arrived, increasing the risk of a pit lane incident during the handover.

Although the mechanic was holding the clutch lever, data confirmed that it had been race winner Marquez who put the bike into gear.

MotoGP race director Mike Webb explained: “Marquez did it in warm-up (pictured) so we went along and [Repsol Honda] said, 'we hold the clutch lever so he can jump on the bike and put it into gear as he goes'.

“So the bike is in neutral when he arrives and they are following exactly the directive that I've given them, which is; the rider puts the bike into gear.

“I asked Danny [Aldridge, technical director] to check the data and confirm that it was in neutral. So I'm happy that the change was fine, they knew what they were doing and knew the rules.”

However to avoid having to check data after every bike swap, Webb may now tweak the wording: “Having seen that option I'm considering redoing the regulation to tidy it up. So it will effectively say 'don't hold the clutch'.”
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