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MotoGP 2018 Round 2 - Argentina. **SPOILER**

The Termas de RÃ*o Hondo Circuit is located 6km from the city which gives the venue its name, in the Province of Santiago del Estero. It was built in a 150 hectare area and officially inaugurated on May 11, 2008, during the visit of Argentina´s Touring Car Racing championship. In 2012, the reconditioning, enlargement and modernization of the circuit began, with the purpose of turning it into Latin AmericaÂ’s most modern, safe and vibrant circuit.
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3 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 16
4 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda GBR 13
5 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati ITA 11
6 Maverick VIÑALES Yamaha SPA 10
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Drama in Moto3 as Aron Canet commits probably the worst thing a racer can do.

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Dovi is probably less than stoked with that FP2. But knowing him it wont matter when it comes to race day.
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Dovi is probably less than stoked with that FP2. But knowing him it wont matter when it comes to race day.
Better hope it's dry for FP3, or its gonna be another inconsistent year. Great ups, horrible downs.
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Btw, I'll be in Austin for the race in 2 weeks, if anybody is doing a .net meet-n-greet.
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Lorenzo trying hard to not justify his salary
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I will wait to drop any spoilers until a little later. If you haven't watched the race yet, watch it. All of it. Do not skip a single second of the broadcast, from the time they line up until the podium ceremony.
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I started to type in a summary, but here's one from a pro:

https://motomatters.com/results/2018...inning_la.html

Basically, it was a sh!t show from the time the broadcast started until... well, there will probably be talk about today's race just like people still talk about Sepang 2015 (I'm hoping my first in-person MotoGP race will be EPIC now).

IMHO, I don't believe the contact was personal between MM93 and VR46. MM93 was going balls out and damn ANYONE who was in between him and the leaders. However, he definitely was out of control, lucky not to hurt anyone or himself, and simply dangerous. He should have been black-flagged, but in the end, he got no points, so justice was served.

The biggest bonehead move of the weekend was zero punishment for Canet in Moto3 (there were dozens of incidents for Race Direction to screw up, and they were basically 0-30). If Race Direction don't think intentionally causing a crash warrants a penalty, especially in a lower class where riders need to learn their craft, then there's no need to have a governing body. What did young riders learn from that? It's ok to go tilt on track bc your feelings got hurt?
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1CRUTCHLOW C.GBR LCR Honda 38
2 DOVIZIOSO A. ITA Ducati Team 35
3 ZARCO J. FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 32
4VINALES M. ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 21
5MARQUEZ M. ESP Repsol Honda Team 20
6MILLER J. AUS Alma Pramac Racing 19
7PETRUCCI D. ITA Alma Pramac Racing 17
8ROSSI V. ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 16
9RINS A. ESP Team Suzuki ECSTAR 16
10IANNONE A. ITA Team Suzuki ECSTAR 15
11RABAT T. ESP Reale Avintia Racing 14
12PEDROSA D. ESP Repsol Honda Team 9
13SYAHRIN H. MAS Monster Yamaha Tech 9
14MORBIDELLI F. ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS 6
15ESPARGARO P. ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 5
16REDDING S. GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 4
17BAUTISTA A. ESP Angel Nieto Team 3
18NAKAGAMI T. JPN LCR Honda 3
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20LORENZO J. ESP Ducati Team 1
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The biggest winner of the day is probably Dovi. Had MM93 run a clean race, he would undoubtedly have won, and taken over the championship lead. Instead, Dovi salvaged a horrible weekend and leaves Argentina 15 pts ahead of Marquez and 14 ahead of Viñales (sorry, but of the top 5, I don't consider Crutchlow or Zarco to be serious title contenders).
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Great race to watch. Loved seeing a front pack of racers where I couldn't guess who would win. Young Rins and Young Zarco doing work out there. Marquez completely gonzo. Well done to Miller, Rabat, Rins, and Zarco. Ducati should probably drop Lorenzo.
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Agreed on all points. Lorenzo isn't working out on the Ducati. Petrucci is better on it - hell, even Rabat, who has been on a Honda pretty much all his life, has adapted better than Lorenzo. The problem for Ducati is that they're going to be in flux soon - Dovi is getting up there in age and won't be a contender much longer, so whoever they put in the 2nd seat needs to be a potential contender quickly, and I just don't see Petrucci being that guy.
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IMHO, I don't believe the contact was personal between MM93 and VR46. MM93 was going balls out and damn ANYONE who was in between him and the leaders. However, he definitely was out of control, lucky not to hurt anyone or himself, and simply dangerous. He should have been black-flagged, but in the end, he got no points, so justice was served.

I'm a MM93 fan, but I concur - Marc was just hunting down the leaders for points. This is a man who from the very beginning of the race had to jump start his own bike, by himself, then do a ride through and basically restarted from the back of the pack.

Did anyone hear VR46 post race interview regarding the incident? He claimed to be scared on the track with Marc cause he's such a danger to himself and other riders. I personally think he's taking a different angle to smear Marc as an awesome rider.
Rossi: “First of all, he doesn't have the balls to come to my office alone but he come like always with his manager [Emilio Alzamora], with Honda, in front of all the cameras.
When Rossi was asked if he would accept the apology from Marc, he responded "“I hope that he is clever enough that he don't come.”

Is it me or is that a threat? hahahaha


Maybe Marc was being too aggressive and should rethink a few over-taking technique but him pushing the bike to it's limit is what makes MotoGP all the more interesting to ride.
VR46 shouldn't smear MM93 as dangerous rider - take the battle to the track.

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Did anyone hear VR46 post race interview regarding the incident? He claimed to be scared on the track with Marc cause he's such a danger to himself and other riders. I personally think he's taking a different angle to smear Marc as an awesome rider.
Rossi: “First of all, he doesn't have the balls to come to my office alone but he come like always with his manager [Emilio Alzamora], with Honda, in front of all the cameras.
When Rossi was asked if he would accept the apology from Marc, he responded "“I hope that he is clever enough that he don't come.”

Is it me or is that a threat? hahahaha
Yeah, I saw that. Rossi have forced his shear of riders off the track through the years when his ambitions outweighed his talent (as a certain Aussie said). Either Rossi is just as disillusioned as the flat earth believers, proclaiming this conspiracy of MM93 knocking him off intentionally, or indeed very clever to use his status and fan base to get back on MM93 after the sour closure of the 2015 championship.

I really think MM93's "pass" on Rossi was way too hard and the punishment just, as with the pass on Aleix Espargaro, but clearly they were racing incidents and Rossi is the one who keeps this meda circus going. I'd say take a lesson from Dani and get over with it. But hey; Now they are even (after Sepang 2015)
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Did anyone hear VR46 post race interview regarding the incident? He claimed to be scared on the track with Marc cause he's such a danger to himself and other riders. I personally think he's taking a different angle to smear Marc as an awesome rider.


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I picked up on that too. Did you also note the smile on Val's face during that interview almost like he was excited to be able to capitalize on the incidents to really do everything he could to play it up. I am partial to Marc and I'm trying not to let that bias slip through because ultimately it was too aggressive. In any case dirty move(s) aside, Marc was flying and there were some impressive lap times from that dude.
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The entire Yamaha camp is trying to take advantage of MM93's over-exuberance Sunday (some might call it stupidity) to try to get further sanctioning on MM93. It's just politics. They'll try to make it personal, and they'll try to paint Marquez as a dangerous rider (he was on Sunday for sure), but in reality, it's all posturing to try to minimize MM93's chances of winning another title and increase VR46's chances. I really don't see this going any further - MM93 can only be so dangerous to other riders when he's almost always in front of them....

On my opinion, the guy that needs to tone it down is Zarco. Seems he's involved in a questionable move every weekend.
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According to several sites, DP26 has to have surgery on his wrist following his first lap crash after being pushed off the dry line by Zarco.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2018/04/10/...t-surgery.html
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I love watching Marquez race, and he is my favorite rider at the moment, but jeez, the **** was he thinking!?

Those moves were not just fearless, but dangerous and irresponsible. If he hadn't stalled his bike at the start he surely would have ran away with it tho. Good race to watch.

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