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HRC committed to make Hayden World Champ

After Honda was able to hoist their 17th World Championship Constructors Title, one more than MV Agusta, and wrestling it away from Yamaha, HRC Managing Director, Satoru Horiike, stated that Honda's next focus was giving Nicky Hayden his first world title this season. "We are proud of our victory, particularly as we took it at home. Now, the individiual rider title is our number one priority," said Horiike.

As many of us Hayden fans have expressed with much grief, it appears that HRC is going to be putting extra effort to help Hayden win the top prize in two wheeled racing. Hayden was found to be the only one left testing in Motegi including some rain tests. We are about 15 days from Portugal with two races left in this exciting MotoGP season. Hayden currently sits 12 points ahead of reigning World Champion, Valentino Rossi.

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wow, they finally shifted their focus with 2 races left and the title hanging in the balance

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Well it's about time. Gonna be a tough 2 races for Nicky.
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go nicky..race hard and bring it home!...hopefully he gets what he needs from HRC

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Well, that's dramatic :) Why couldn't they get behind him from day one?

Let's hope they have the clutch issue resolved. Been a while since he's had a podium finish. It started after Laguna when they changed the clutch. Just give him Pedrosa's bike and let him ride :)
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What do you think they've been doing the rest of the season? Drinking sake and developing parts for the Goldwing?

Truth is they are probably going to stop developing parts for the other RCV's and probably will take some attention off the 800 to make sure they're in tip top shape for the last two races.

Unfortunately I think the testing rules will prevent Nicky from testing the bike again until Portugal.
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well as long as their focus is on finishing strong and hopefully winning it all for nicky then thats good

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"As Honda we are very proud of the 2006 constructors' championship victory and particularly happy that we reached our goal at our home track of Twin Ring Motegi," said Satoru Horiike, managing director of Honda Racing Corporation. "Now we must concentrate all our energy on winning the riders' championship title."

Honda has lost the riders' championship to its former star Valentino Rossi for the past two seasons, but Hayden will take a slender 12 point lead over Rossi into the final two rounds of the 2006 championship, at Estoril and Valencia.

"Now we have won the constructors' title and the teams' title but we cannot party because our biggest target is to win the riders' championship," confirmed Repsol Honda team manager Makoto Tanaka. "So we will be working as hard as possible for this in the next races."

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exactly as I predicted immediately after the Motegi race.

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I think their attitudes have changed since Dani finished last at Sepang and 9th/10th at Motegi. I think Dani is 36-some points from Hayden. So, who's got the best chance? I think HRC decided it's Hayden. Time to step it up a notch!

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I think their attitudes have changed since Dani finished last at Sepang and 9th/10th at Motegi. I think Dani is 36-some points from Hayden. So, who's got the best chance? I think HRC decided it's Hayden. Time to step it up a notch!
Exactly. When Pedrosa fell off the pace in Australia his chances for a championship fell as well.
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Imagine where Nicky would be if they had decided this at the beginning of the season.


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Imagine where Nicky would be if they had decided this at the beginning of the season.
about 70 points ahead of Rossi.

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Nicky has been on the test bike this year by his own choosing. But he can't aford any bad starts the last three races. It seems like a crap shoot whether HRC will fix the clutch issues. Melandri has been on the pace all year with last year's bike and Pedrosa has been fast on it for most of the year.

Would it be a good move to switch to the proven RC211V at this point? Or would he be giving up too much with a move like that?
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Nicky has been on the test bike this year by his own choosing. But he can't aford any bad starts the last three races. It seems like a crap shoot whether HRC will fix the clutch issues. Melandri has been on the pace all year with last year's bike and Pedrosa has been fast on it for most of the year.

Would it be a good move to switch to the proven RC211V at this point? Or would he be giving up too much with a move like that?
I would like to see him on a copy of Pedrosa's bike which is an upgraded version of Melandri's and Stoner's. But if they can resolve the clutch issue he should stay on the EVO as he'll comfy on it.
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Imagine where Nicky would be if they had decided this at the beginning of the season.
Huh??? Maybe that would make sense if Honda only had one bike in Moto GP, didn't bother doing any development for the 800cc bike and didn't develop parts for superbike and supersport racing.
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well at least they didn't wait till it really got serious
oh wait...

the whole clutch thing just really pisses me off big time, they could pop in a proven clutch any time they want but would rather let nicky use the one they are developing until they get it right, which they know they haven't done yet. Of course I guess when your a small factory like Honda that doesn't have any test riders or test tracks
oh wait...

just seems like massively bad business to make your lead rider who is leading the championship use a clutch they haven't worked the bugs out of yet, what dumbass thought up that plan? and its not like they don't know by race time its not fixed, they have 2 days of practice and qualifying to figure out that its not any better.

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It's not so much that the clutch isn't "proven" as it is the location of the clutch causes it to fail. It's no longer located on the right side, but stacked on the left side where apparently there is more heat generation. That heat causes the clutch to somehow slip. The technicalities of it all are unclear to me, but since moving the clutch on the new motor (after Laguna), they've been having problems. I don't know why they don't just give him back the Laguna motor. Oh wait, it's a new frame too... Dang. It's like sin -- it's a slippery slope. Once you get going, it's hard to go back.

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well at least they didn't wait till it really got serious
oh wait...

the whole clutch thing just really pisses me off big time, they could pop in a proven clutch any time they want but would rather let nicky use the one they are developing until they get it right, which they know they haven't done yet. Of course I guess when your a small factory like Honda that doesn't have any test riders or test tracks
oh wait...

just seems like massively bad business to make your lead rider who is leading the championship use a clutch they haven't worked the bugs out of yet, what dumbass thought up that plan? and its not like they don't know by race time its not fixed, they have 2 days of practice and qualifying to figure out that its not any better.

HRC just does some stupid things imo
I think you're grossly misunderstanding how things work in series like Formula 1 and Moto GP (and to a lesser extent Le Mans). These series have a very large degree of lattitude in developing new parts and technologies to make their respective vehicles faster. But because a lot of the new ideas and concepts are bleeding edge, they are not going to be "100% proven" when they are first implemented. If a team waited until something was 100% proven before they implemented it they would always be 2 steps behind the competition.

So when a team comes up with something new that they think will confer an advantage they try it out. In the first iteration it might only be at 60% or 70% of its true performance potential but you refine it and improve it and you develop a bigger advantage from it.

The clutch was placed in the center of the engine, presumably to make the bike more compact and reduce its moment of polar inertia. They figured it would be an advantage but obviously the design needs more refinement, and that's what they're doing.

Honda could've played it safe but they didn't amass the record they have in racing by playing it safe all the time. And bottom line is that Rossi has beaten them two years in a row. Playing it safe again was unlikely to change the results.

Obviously the clutch has caused problems and maybe they wouldn't have tried it if they knew it would give them this much trouble. But you don't build the best bike by not taking risks and trying new things. It doesn't always work out, that's why it's called a risk.

Let's face it, Nicky has led the championship most of the season but he hasn't been dominating. If he were dominating, yeah, leave the bike alone. But that hasn't been the case and one would be a fool to think that Rossi's bad luck would last the whole season. That's why they've been pushing the development of the bike. Maybe they've gone down the wrong road along the way but that's what happens sometimes when you're pushing the technical envelope into uncharted territory.

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Let's face it, Nicky has led the championship most of the season but he hasn't been dominating. If he were dominating, yeah, leave the bike alone. But that hasn't been the case and one would be a fool to think that Rossi's bad luck would last the whole season. That's why they've been pushing the development of the bike. Maybe they've gone down the wrong road along the way but that's what happens sometimes when you're pushing the technical envelope into uncharted territory.
He was a podium regular until they changed the clutch after Laguna. No, not dominating but being consistent. Rossi can dominate as he has shown, but his bike can also be inconsistent and he can crash as well (Assen).

All I want Honda to do is give Nicky back the package he had for the first half of the season. They can iron the clutch issues out in the offseason.
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I think you're grossly misunderstanding how things work in series like Formula 1 and Moto GP (and to a lesser extent Le Mans). These series have a very large degree of lattitude in developing new parts and technologies to make their respective vehicles faster. But because a lot of the new ideas and concepts are bleeding edge, they are not going to be "100% proven" when they are first implemented. If a team waited until something was 100% proven before they implemented it they would always be 2 steps behind the competition.
I respectfully have to disagree. No way would this happen in Formula 1. Teams like Ferrari, McLaren, and Renault USE their test teams. That's what they are there for. To refine the development parts so that when the race drivers use them they don't fail. And look at Audi in LeMans. They literally did thousands upon thousands of miles with their new diesel prototype before the 24 Hours of LeMans. Testing doesn't replace racing for sure, but to test while racing? Well that's just silly.

I admit to being a fairly new follower of Moto GP (since early 2005). But the way certain things happen in this series baffles me to a certain extent. From my perspective Honda have not looked very interested in the riders title. So now with two races to go and a 12 point lead over the best rider on the grid they decide to swing their full support behind Nicky? And I wonder why they can't get their F1 team squared away. LOL!
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i didn't misunderstand anything, they don't need to be developing a new clutch (configuration and location if you want to get specific) in the last half of the last year they will be using this bike and if they did it should be done by testers or the second rider who doesn't have a chance at the championship anymore not by the lead rider who's winning the championship
developing is good but when it costs you the championship, its not helping anything
Honda has an army of people that COULD test new engine configurations and at least one private track to do it rather than doing it at race weekends
saying the new engine won't fit on the old frame doesn't make a difference, they carry enough spare parts to all the races to build 2 or 3 complete bikes and enough mechanics to do it quickly. we're talking about teams that have started friday practice, decide they need something different in the swingarm and had one made in japan overnight and shipped to the track for saturday qualifying.

the point is if they wanted to get a good bike ready for the race it would take about an hour
its stupid as hell to screw over your lead rider and championship hope to develope an engine for 2 races do ya'll disagree with that?


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He was a podium regular until they changed the clutch after Laguna. No, not dominating but being consistent. Rossi can dominate as he has shown, but his bike can also be inconsistent and he can crash as well (Assen).

All I want Honda to do is give Nicky back the package he had for the first half of the season. They can iron the clutch issues out in the offseason.
That's certainly an option but doing that is a risk too. Rossi has come out swinging of late and I'd want to give Nicky the best chance of winning the race as possible.

Also, notice Nicky had not gotten a pole position all year until Philip Island. Also note that the Donington package he tested after Brno was faster than what he had been racing earlier this season.

You could be right that the results would be better if they gave Nicky back the configuration he rode earlier in the season but its hard to say if that would definitively be best option. That's the thing that makes decisions difficult, its rarely a black and white issue of what the answer is.

Hopefully at the post Motegi test they found a solution that will allow Nicky to get the start that he needs so he can take advantage of the extra speed the Donington package offers. It also seems like they've found some extra speed in the setup since he was able to go around a half second faster in the post race test than he did during the race.
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Yamaha ditched their 2006 bike and went back to the 2005 Evo bike in an effort to win races. And it worked. Honda should do likewise, instead of being stubborn.
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It also seems like they've found some extra speed in the setup since he was able to go around a half second faster in the post race test than he did during the race.
Too little to late. They've been on the back foot after most of the Friday sessions post Laguna Seca. That doesn't help their cause at all when they find the speed on Monday.
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Yamaha ditched their 2006 bike and went back to the 2005 Evo bike in an effort to win races. And it worked. Honda should do likewise, instead of being stubborn.
Its easy for you to say that but what worked for one team may not work for another and you don't know all of the variables involved. Sure, in hindsight that seems like a good idea, but then what? People will say, "Oh, they gave Nicky the slower bike, they should've just fixed the clutch problem and he would've won."

As I said, maybe that is the best strategy but it is not really that simple. At this level a lot of times there are no easy answers.
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It's not so much that the clutch isn't "proven" as it is the location of the clutch causes it to fail. It's no longer located on the right side, but stacked on the left side where apparently there is more heat generation. That heat causes the clutch to somehow slip. The technicalities of it all are unclear to me, but since moving the clutch on the new motor (after Laguna), they've been having problems. I don't know why they don't just give him back the Laguna motor. Oh wait, it's a new frame too... Dang. It's like sin -- it's a slippery slope. Once you get going, it's hard to go back.

On the left side????



This is from this past monday...looks like the clutch pack is still on the right side of the bike...


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That's certainly an option but doing that is a risk too. Rossi has come out swinging of late and I'd want to give Nicky the best chance of winning the race as possible.
Yep. But Rossi didn't get on track until he switch back to the 05 chassis.

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Also, notice Nicky had not gotten a pole position all year until Philip Island. Also note that the Donington package he tested after Brno was faster than what he had been racing earlier this season.
Yep. They've got to iron their stuff out BEFORE qualifying and race day :)

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You could be right that the results would be better if they gave Nicky back the configuration he rode earlier in the season but its hard to say if that would definitively be best option. That's the thing that makes decisions difficult, its rarely a black and white issue of what the answer is.
I know. I just want Honda to give him the best chance to win.

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Hopefully at the post Motegi test they found a solution that will allow Nicky to get the start that he needs so he can take advantage of the extra speed the Donington package offers. It also seems like they've found some extra speed in the setup since he was able to go around a half second faster in the post race test than he did during the race.
I've got my fingers crossed!
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