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Exclamation The Doctor vs. The Kentucky Kid!!!!

The final stretch is upon us!!! Let's hear more of your predictions and comments! It seems like this section has been the HOT topic of this forum. So let's keep it going! It's gonna be CcCrRrAaAzZzyYy!!!

P.S. I predict Rossi's gonna win it all!!!!


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I think Hayden burnt himself out, just like Padrosa
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Rossi!!!! Although the way the have been riding lately, Marco and Loris could become a serious obstacle!

Nicki has never matched Rossi in a head to head battle. If it comes down to that, Rossi's got it in the bag.

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Nicky out paced Rossi pretty badly at Laguna, so much for never :)
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Nicky out paced Rossi pretty badly at Laguna, so much for never :)
Uh yeah...It's the only race on the calender where Hayden is the favorite to win!

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I hope Nicky stays right behind Rossi if he can't beat him. But I'm hoping that he beats him strait-up.

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Nicky was pretty darn close to Rossi even at Phillip Island where only Gibby separated them after Rossi had that wicked pass in the last corner (but we all know about the yellow flag incident by now). Laguna was another place where Nicky out paced Rossi. There are a number of times where Nicky out-paced Rossi, including another one of Nicky's wins -- Assen (yah, yah, Rossi was injured, but so was Dani and he smoked Nicky for second place in Malaysia was it?) So, what's my take?

I was reading MotoGP and they had some ridiculous scenarios, like what if Nicky finished first? Second? Third? I think that Nicky loses ground in the next race and finishes strong in the last race. I say it's really, really close and Rossi takes it within a handful of points. Unless Honda hands Nicky a gem of a bike and Michelin slips Rossi a couple of faulty tires, I don't see how this pans out for Nicky. The machine he's riding just isn't getting it done for him.

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Nicky was pretty darn close to Rossi even at Phillip Island where only Gibby separated them after Rossi had that wicked pass in the last corner (but we all know about the yellow flag incident by now). Laguna was another place where Nicky out paced Rossi. There are a number of times where Nicky out-paced Rossi, including another one of Nicky's wins -- Assen (yah, yah, Rossi was injured, but so was Dani and he smoked Nicky for second place in Malaysia was it?) So, what's my take?

I was reading MotoGP and they had some ridiculous scenarios, like what if Nicky finished first? Second? Third? I think that Nicky loses ground in the next race and finishes strong in the last race. I say it's really, really close and Rossi takes it within a handful of points. Unless Honda hands Nicky a gem of a bike and Michelin slips Rossi a couple of faulty tires, I don't see how this pans out for Nicky. The machine he's riding just isn't getting it done for him.

AND... I'm a serious Hayden fan. Just can't stand to watch what I'm seeing. Oh, btw, he didn't burn out. The bike just isn't what it was, for better or worse!
I agree w/ most of your statements. I think some of the scenarious are VERY unlikely. And yes...Nicky has had a GREAT run this year! But it's the Factory RC211V we're talking about. Even "if" it's having problems, it's most likely STILL the best bike out on the grid. I don't believe that Nicky's burnt out! But I still think it's his performance that isn't getting it done. He's said it himself for the past couple of races, yes the bike make have some problems...but he just didn't get it done! Wrong thing to do when Rossi is ready to steal the show, again! (btw...I am terrified of Michelin giving Rossi some faulty slicks and/or his engine konks out on him again!)

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At the two remaining tracks (Estoril & Valencia), since 03 (Nicky's first year), he has finished (03) 9th, 16th, (04) DNS, Crash, (05) 7th & 2nd.

Rossi on the other hand won both races in 03 & 04 and was 2nd & 3rd last year.

If Rossi wins both races, Nicky has to finish 2nd in both races to win the championship. If he finishes 3rd in either one, it's over. If Rossi finishes 2nd in both races, Nicky needs a 3rd & a 4th.

Like I said after Laguna, it is Nicky's championship to lose

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Good one Bit T....I agree...

#1...I VERY much doubt that Hayden is going to finish 1st in any of the last 2 races.

#2...I doubt that Hayden will finish right behind Rossi in either race too!

I see at least 1-3 riders finishing inbetween them!!!

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I want Hayden to win but if he does I almost feel as if he didn't really win it.

I've said before he just doesn't have it. Yah ofcourse he's pro and he's good but I think guys like Rossi and Pedrosa are just another level above him.

Imagine if he was riding that crappy Yami that Rossi was having trouble with all year. There would be no way he would even be near having leading points.

So unless Hayden eats his wheaties before the races and really steps it up Rossi will take it again. The odds are just leaning to much to Rossi.

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I want Hayden to win but if he does I almost feel as if he didn't really win it.

I've said before he just doesn't have it. Yah ofcourse he's pro and he's good but I think guys like Rossi and Pedrosa are just another level above him.

Imagine if he was riding that crappy Yami that Rossi was having trouble with all year. There would be no way he would even be near having leading points.

So unless Hayden eats his wheaties before the races and really steps it up Rossi will take it again. The odds are just leaning to much to Rossi.

I feel the only way he will win is if Rossi crashes out both races but like that is going to happen.
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I want Hayden to win but if he does I almost feel as if he didn't really win it.

I've said before he just doesn't have it. Yah ofcourse he's pro and he's good but I think guys like Rossi and Pedrosa are just another level above him.

Imagine if he was riding that crappy Yami that Rossi was having trouble with all year. There would be no way he would even be near having leading points.
I agree. Its unfortunate when the bike's limitations hinder a rider's ability. Nicky will tell you himself that Vale is a better rider. But winning the championship is a team effort.

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there's just no way to know till they run the race....thats why they...you know...run the race. hayden could win and rossi could finish 8th, or rossi could win with hayden 3rd. i don't know about you, but i'm going to be watching!

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I want Hayden to win but if he does I almost feel as if he didn't really win it.

I've said before he just doesn't have it. Yah ofcourse he's pro and he's good but I think guys like Rossi and Pedrosa are just another level above him.

Imagine if he was riding that crappy Yami that Rossi was having trouble with all year. There would be no way he would even be near having leading points.

So unless Hayden eats his wheaties before the races and really steps it up Rossi will take it again. The odds are just leaning to much to Rossi.

I feel the only way he will win is if Rossi crashes out both races, but like that is going to happen.
I disagree. I am in NO WAY a Hayden fan (as much as I want a US Champ) but if he wins the Championship then he deserves it! Nobody will dispute that Rossi is at another level, Pedrosa is most likely a Champion to come, but Hayden has been consistent all season. he has not crashed out, he has won two races and podiumed numerous times. To win a race you must finish, to win a Championship you must finish more races and be on the box more than everyone else. Rossi has had a bumm season starting with being taken out in T1 of Race 1.....but that is part of racing.

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Nicky was pretty darn close to Rossi even at Phillip Island where only Gibby separated them after Rossi had that wicked pass in the last corner (but we all know about the yellow flag incident by now).
And we all know how lucky Nicky was that they had to switch bikes.. what place was he in before that? 10th? And Rossi had charged from 9th to 2nd..
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And we all know how lucky Nicky was that they had to switch bikes.. what place was he in before that? 10th? And Rossi had charged from 9th to 2nd..
I think he was in like 15th. There was no way he would have recovered if the race stayed dry enough. Rossi on the other hand would have ripped apart the pack if he was back there.


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The final stretch is upon us!!! Let's hear more of your predictions and comments! It seems like this section has been the HOT topic of this forum. So let's keep it going! It's gonna be CcCrRrAaAzZzyYy!!!

P.S. I predict Rossi's gonna win it all!!!!

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I want Hayden to win but if he does I almost feel as if he didn't really win it.
He who ends with the most points win....end of story.

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I've said before he just doesn't have it. Yah ofcourse he's pro and he's good but I think guys like Rossi and Pedrosa are just another level above him.
I don't feel that way but meh, to each his own.

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Imagine if he was riding that crappy Yami that Rossi was having trouble with all year. There would be no way he would even be near having leading points.
Imagine if Nicky didn't have a crappy clutch after Laguna, he could be leading by way more points than he is now....

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So unless Hayden eats his wheaties before the races and really steps it up Rossi will take it again. The odds are just leaning to much to Rossi.
Rossi is probably the greatest rider to ever grace two wheels. Losing to Rossi is not an insult....

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Hmm, nobody thought Rossi would suffer an odd tire failure or blow two motors either. Stranger things have 'appened.
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And we all know how lucky Nicky was that they had to switch bikes.. what place was he in before that? 10th? And Rossi had charged from 9th to 2nd..
And Rossi had charged from 9th to 2nd...passing Stoner under a waving yellow flag and not being penalized for it, because he's Rossi....

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Rossi or Hayden, who cares!

Rossi has always been Rossi, a racers racer and Italian. "I make the pass." "it was a good race" etc etc etc...
He is a dangerous racer, takes at times unnecessary risks at the will of a win.
In the words of Gibernau at times "Rossi had to win, or die today." and in my watching of the races I've seen would agree. He is fast, no doubt there. Probably better than Doohan - with the most respect here!
I don't like how Rossi is sticking his legs out in corners particularly to get the bike to turn in when he's hot. Its not good, and I don't like it. In the years I've watched GP's Ive seen rider contact but not a lot of riders stick their legs out that I've seen (keep in mind I could be wrong) as Rossi is doing especially in the years he has been on the Yamaha. He didn't do it when he was with Honda, if he did I didn't notice it as much as I am now. As I say- I dont like it.
Why- It has the possibility of hindering a clean pass on the inside.
I used to care, but I'm a bit over it now, however wins wins.
Its only a championship. Rossi has always been very fast at Phillip Island, was nice to see a slightly level playing field with the rain for PI 2006.
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Rossi has always been Rossi, a racers racer and Italian. "I make the pass." "it was a good race" etc etc etc...
He is a dangerous racer, takes at times unnecessary risks at the will of a win.
In the words of Gibernau at times "Rossi had to win, or die today." and in my watching of the races I've seen would agree. He is fast, no doubt there. Probably better than Doohan - with the most respect here!
I don't like how Rossi is sticking his legs out in corners particularly to get the bike to turn in when he's hot. Its not good, and I don't like it. In the years I've watched GP's Ive seen rider contact but not a lot of riders stick their legs out that I've seen (keep in mind I could be wrong) as Rossi is doing especially in the years he has been on the Yamaha. He didn't do it when he was with Honda, if he did I didn't notice it as much as I am now. As I say- I dont like it.
Why- It has the possibility of hindering a clean pass on the inside.
I used to care, but I'm a bit over it now, however wins wins.
Its only a championship. Rossi has always been very fast at Phillip Island, was nice to see a slightly level playing field with the rain for PI 2006.
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Rossi and others stick their left foot out while taking left corners because it's easier to pull your foot out from under the shifter and line it up on the peg instead of trying to scoot it back. Are you saying he sticks his feet out to block people passing him? Man, you are funny.


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Rossi and others stick their left foot out while taking left corners because it's easier to pull your foot out from under the shifter and line it up on the peg instead of trying to scoot it back. Are you saying he sticks his feet out to block people passing him? Man, you are funny.
Haha, thats not a bad idea, maybe I should stick my legs out in corners so I don't get passed!

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