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Hodgson to American Honda for 08

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sp.../?&R=EPI-94247

This is great news for American and Honda fans but I am a little bit disappointed that he didn't get the Ten Kate ride. Kiyonari is all but certain to have one of the seats and I hope another one goes to Johnny Rea. Otherwise Rea will probably join Xerox Ducati.

Anyway I imagine Honda was going to make the official announcement at their dealer show this week (along with the unveiling of the new 1000RR and a few other models...). I kind of hope they go with 3 bikes for next year and keep Zemke and Duhamel but who knows. I'd like to see those two guys have a chance to vindicate themselves next year on the new bike.
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That is great news. Next year should be fun to watch.
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I am glad to have him back in the series, but I am sure it will be the Ben & Matt show again next year.

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Would have been a better move to go to Ten Kate, but you can understand him not wanting to get caught without a ride again!
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I am glad to have him back in the series, but I am sure it will be the Ben & Matt show again next year.
yep, as every race shows...nobody else can even come close
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Would have been a better move to go to Ten Kate, but you can understand him not wanting to get caught without a ride again!
I totally agree and if Ten Kate really wanted him they would not have let him sign with American Honda.

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I hope he had a clause in the contract allowing him out if he gets called up by Ten Kate or even a MotoGP team.

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I hope he had a clause in the contract allowing him out if he gets called up by Ten Kate or even a MotoGP team.
I would not bet on it

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It looks like Ten Kate will be running Sofuoglu and Kiyonari on their WSB bikes next year - signing Hodgson might have been difficult politically with HRC as Kiyonari is one of their favourites and Sofuoglu might have already had promises etc on the basis of winning WSS.
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I would have liked to see Hodgson with Tk, but he really likes the U.S. and we are fortunate to have him here.

Now, if we can just get Mat to leave....
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As a brit it's nice to see one of our riders be so warmly welcomed in an overseas race series, and have earned that respect through decent on-track performances.

Fingers crossed he has a good 2008 season on the new 1000RR, he's vastly experienced which will help with it's development.
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I think he'll be quite the asset for the new 1000RR.

You guys could send us Jonathan Rea to if you like...
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I hope American Honda will take the parts and advice offered by the factory
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I hope American Honda will take the parts and advice offered by the factory
the problem with working with HRC is that you have to take what they give you and run it like it is. Adjustments are basically limited to turning nobs with an HRC rep looking over your shoulder to make sure your not doing anything they don't want you to do.

to beat the Suzuki's requires a little more creativity than HRC will allow


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the problem with working with HRC is that you have to take what they give you and run it like it is. Adjustments are basically limited to turning nobs with an HRC rep looking over your shoulder to make sure your not doing anything they don't want you to do.

to beat the Suzuki's requires a little more creativity than HRC will allow
Not to mention the HRC kit is expensivo.

Maybe HRC kitted bikes would be able to beat Suzuki, maybe not, who knows. The team manager did say that they will be collaborating more with Ten Kate in developing the new bike.
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nope, HRC kits wouldn't help them. The biggest advantage of the HRC kit is the engine and the Honda is already very fast in a straight line doing it themselves. They're much better off working a program similar to Ten Kate. Its the stupid little things that makes HRC a PITA. I think it was Miguel that didn't like the footpeg positioning of the HRC rearsets but HRC wouldn't let them modify the rearsets or use anything else.

I think they liked the HRC suspension package, but again, they could only do so much with it

Also, the HRC kit required an Akra exhaust (it might still, not sure) but American Honda was sponsored by Jardine. HRC wouldn't let them use a Jardine exhaust so they had to put a Jardine sticker on their HRC/Akra cans. Jardine was pissed, the team was pissed, HRC didn't give a sh!t.


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I am looking forward to see if Honda can give Suzuki a little more competition.

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They announced Miguel & Hodgson at the show but not Zemke. Anybody know if he's going somewhere else?

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are they still retaining the services of the old man Duhamel? American Honda needs young blood to ride their bikes, they'd better send old man out to pasture.


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are they still retaining the services of the old man Duhamel? American Honda needs young blood to ride their bikes, they'd better send old man out to pasture.

Thank you. I have been saying this for quite some time now. Should have kept Zemke and booted Duhamel.
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Thank you. I have been saying this for quite some time now. Should have kept Zemke and booted Duhamel.
I think Zemke is a strong rider and will probably have no trouble finding a ride elsewhere but every year that he has been Duhamel's teammate Duhamel has finished ahead of him in the championship. That includes FX. Even this year Miguel was leading Jake in the points until he got hurt. You cannot argue with the numbers.

Now Miguel definitely doesn't have as many years in the sport but he has won more races and championships for Honda and has helped develop several of their superbikes. Furthermore his vastly experience and skilled crew chief (Al Luddington) has said that he'd retire when Miguel retires so they'd be losing some very valuable assets right when they need to develop a new motorcycle.

Not that I think it would have been a bad choice to keep Zemke or even a bad choice to get rid of both Zemke and Duhamel and get Hayes and Hodgson. But any combination of riders they chose would have it's downsides and would leave somebody unhappy.
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HRC wouldn't let Miguel move his footpegs? No big surprise, its easy to be in control when you're god.

But seriously HRC kitted bike would put up a better fight against Yoshi. Look at WSBK. Factory support = pts leader. different rules, but the Yoshi boys are routinely 10+ seconds ahead. Surely the factory could help. I mean, maybe cut it to 5.
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HRC wouldn't let Miguel move his footpegs? No big surprise, its easy to be in control when you're god.

But seriously HRC kitted bike would put up a better fight against Yoshi. Look at WSBK. Factory support = pts leader. different rules, but the Yoshi boys are routinely 10+ seconds ahead. Surely the factory could help. I mean, maybe cut it to 5.

Agreed. Ten Kate's domination in WSBK is a testament to how good the 1000RR can be. I would like to see that same domination in AMA. Can't stand those stupid Suzuki's.
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