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Mad Max and his future in racing

Suzuki Parts Ways With Biaggi
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Thursday, October 18, 2007

This just in from ALstare Suzuki:

SUZUKI AND ALSTARE PART COMPANY WITH MAX BIAGGI

"With reference to the current situation Team Alstare is facing regarding sponsorship, it is with regret and sadness that the team announces that it will not renewing its contract with Max Biaggi for 2008.

Suzuki and Team Alstare would like to thank Max Biaggi for his great performances and results achieved during the 2007 season, and also for his technical contribution.

Suzuki and Team Alstare would like to wish Max Biaggi all the best for the future."


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I guess his actions with HRC will always haunt him



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Here's the story link: HERE

It wasn't because he sucked or whatever. Alstare is leaving WSBK as a sponsor and they couldn't then resign him. No factory rides left in GP and good luck trying to convince a factory to run a third bike for him. Only rides left are PdA Ducati (1), Gresini Honda... I think that's it. I would love to see him back in GP with all the bland personalities in there and no rivalries, it's time to throw Biaggi back in, if not for ratings. He definitely proved in WSBK that he's a cut above the rest as far as riding is concerned. Perhaps THE smoothest rider in SBK 2007. Virtually flawless without knowing many of the tracks.

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And just as I speak... Gresini opens talks with Biaggi.

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Following this morning's announcement that Max Biaggi will not ride for the Alstare Suzuki WSBK team next season, Fausto Gresini has revealed that initial talks with the Roman have begun.

While all the factory rides in MotoGPhave already been taken, and only one official Kawasaki seat remains in WSBK, the satellite HondaGresini team has one ride, alongside 250 frontrunner Alex de Angelis, free for the 2008 MotoGP season.

Current occupant Toni Elias and Konica Minolta Honda's Shinya Nakano were previously thought to be favourites for the position, within what is currently the only Honda team on Bridgestonetyres, and the news that the former triple 500cc/MotoGP runner-up is also in contention will raise eyebrows.

Biaggi only moved to World Superbike - where he rebuilt his reputation this season with three wins, 17 podiums and third in the championship - after being forced out of MotoGP following a bitter split with HRC, which resulted in the loss of not only his Repsol Honda ride, but any Honda ride, for 2006.

Nevertheless, Gresini has confirmed to La Gazzetta dello Sport that he has opened preliminary negotiations with the 36-year-old...

The other seats still free in MotoGP are at d'Antin Ducatiand Team Roberts, assuming the grid remains at 19 riders.



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i hope max gets the gresini ride, i would love to see him back in GP


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The stories I've heard about Biaggi...I dunno...he's quite the spectacular a-hole. Especially his behavior while he was in MotoGP. The man thinks he's god's gift to racing or something...

If he's learned his lesson and humbled himself, then I wouldn't mind seeing him compete again, but his self-inflated ego was just too...distasteful.

I love the current grid in motoGP as ALL riders are gracious and humble. It's so refreshing to see it. The only rider that I see a bit of Biaggi in is Pedrosa...and well...he's Pedrosa...nuff said.

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Biaggi: Where Now?
by dean adams
Thursday, October 18, 2007

This morning's not terribly unexpected announcement from Alstare Suzuki that they will not be working with Max Biaggi in 2008 brings with it an interesting question. Where now for Biaggi?

It would seem most of the good WSBK slots are full for 2008. Does this mean Biaggi will return to MotoGP? Biaggi to Kawasaki rumors have run rampant all Summer.

Biaggi on a customer Ducati in WSBK is where some feel he will end up. Biaggi could certainly drum up the money in Italy to run such an effort but one has to wonder if team ownership is a role Max is interested in.


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Interesting, Biaggi onboard possibly with Gresini. I thought he was forbidden to ride Honda...

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Biaggi to Gresini Honda?

As reported last week, after Max and the Suzuki WSB team parted company recently Max has been in tentative discussions with Fausto Gresini for a MotoGP ride in 2008.

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While all the factory rides in MotoGP have already been taken, and only one official Kawasaki seat remains in WSBK, the satellite Honda Gresini team still has one ride, alongside 250 frontrunner Alex de Angelis, free for the 2008 MotoGP season.

Current occupant Toni Elias and Konica Minolta Hondas Shinya Nakano were previously thought to be favourites for the position, within what is currently the only Honda team on Bridgestone tyres, and the news that former triple 500cc/MotoGP runner-up Biaggi is also in contention will raise eyebrows.

Biaggi only moved to World Superbikes - where he rebuilt his reputation this season with three wins, 17 podiums and third in the championship - after being forced out of MotoGP following a bitter split with HRC, which resulted in the loss of not only his Repsol Honda ride, but any Honda ride, for 2006.

Nevertheless, Gresini confirmed to the Italian press that he has opened preliminary negotiations with the 36-year-old, although it seems Gresini is yet to discuss the matter with Honda...

The other seats still free in MotoGP, assuming the grid remains at 19 riders, are at d'Antin Ducati and Team Roberts.
However, as expected HRC aren't keen on having Max back and the top boss of HRC has more or less told him to take a hike...

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/moto...ggi_hopes.html

Max may end up doing some sort of private Ducati deal to run in WSB but is there a team structure there to run him?
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I saw that... looks like max has burned too many bridges in the MotoGP paddock...
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That'd be sweet to have Biaggi back. That dude was a hot head, and he pi$$ed everyone off!! I love it!! Pi$$ing people off is the best! Hope he gets a ride.
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Biaggi to Ducati in WSBK.

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Premature Duc Elation: Biaggi To GSE Not Happening
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007

One of the requirements to go racing is that you have actual bikes.
While I think most of the world would like to see Max Biaggi on a Ducati in World Superbike next season, today's bum rush and widely-reported news that he'll be aboard the GSE team's machines in 2008 WSBK is, sadly, not true.

GSE, who ran Toseland and Hodgson in BSB and WSBK, won't be in British Superbike next season because the current Dorna rules won't allow a 1098 in with non-standard pistons. GSE reportedly wants to go WSBK racing instead, but their current sponsors aren't so keen on the move. As one might imagine, this is a a major problem.

The last I heard, GSE hadn't even ordered bikes from Corse for 2008; however, the Biaggi/GSE pairing won't happen for a variety of other reasons as well.

There are satellite WSBK Ducati teams that have ordered bikes for 2008, and would seem to have open spots, so those pining to see Max-a-million on a 1098 at Miller next year may still have a shot.

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Biaggi to Ducati possibly? WSB

If it turns out to be true this could be very interesting for the series next year.

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wsbk...gi_to_gse.html
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GSE responding saying this is all rumors and speculation.

Poor max, nobody loves him :icon_lol:
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Wright responds to Biaggi rumours.
Wednesday, 24th October 2007

Colin Wright, team manager of GSE's Airwaves Ducati team, has told Crash.net that the rumours surrounding GSE running Max Biaggi in WSBK next season are currently just that - rumours.

Wright described the story as pure speculation saying, "Nothing is happening at the moment so everyone is guessing."

GSE were tipped to make a WSBK return in 2008 long before the Biaggi rumours arose, but ruled it out due to a lack of interest from sponsors - something the 'Max factor' could help overcome. However, GSE hasn't yet given up on BSB...

Wright is hoping to have news very soon regarding
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At the moment the 1098 has a piston which isn't suitable for racing, but Ducati Corse need to provide the British Superbike officials with a sound engineering reason as to why they should be allowed to run a special piston.

Meanwhile, Biaggi on a factory-backed Ducati in WSBK next season may still happen - if not with GSE, then he could be placed alongside Ruben Xaus at Sterilgarda or with another satellite 1098 team.



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I don't ever think Honda will ever take a chance with Biaggi again to matter what series.

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Considering Max parted company with Alstare Suzuki WSB because they didn't have the budget to run him - what chance a satellite WSB team could still meet his financial demands?

The GSE option would be more possible (to me) as they have the profile and track record to pull in decent sponsorship. But it's still unlikely, and in their recent statement about pulling out of BSB they suggested that team personnel were already wanting to move elsewhere whilst job offers were available.
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silly question - what exactly did max do to HRC, that he won't ride a honda again?
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Max asked for too much... period... so he won't be making any money anymore i guess...
he could get his Camel sponsors on board tho... the only bridge he didn't burn...
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I'd like to see him go out on television and say I'm going to ride for Suzuki for 50% less! :icon_lol: That way there are going to be more exciting races with the Italian emperor around... Just a thought... :icon_lol:

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I'd read somewhere that when Max was riding for HRC he made some very critical comments about his factory Honda, possibly to a journalist (I can't remember for sure). What he didn't realise was that some top HRC bosses were within earshot and they were very pissed off to hear what Max had to say in public.

Hence Max gets the sack from Repsol Honda, HRC refuse to let Pons Honda run him despite a massive amount of cash backing from Camel, and they also put pressure on Bridgestone to prevent Kawasaki running a 3rd rider on their tyres.

While hunting for the info on this it appears that Max didn't get a ride with Alstare in WSB in 2005 partly due to the fact that they were running Showa suspension (owned by Honda....) and they didn't have the time needed to set up his parallel Alstare squad with Ohlins.

Honda really put him out in the cold, that's for sure.

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Found this article now but not sure who published..

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Reliable sources tell it like it was. Max Biaggi has been having a hard season. He’s been unhappy with the bike, unhappy with Honda and unable to win races or even appear consistently on the podium.

I had a brief interview with Max in Australia where he said at one point, “My problems are not because I have forgotten how to ride. The problem is the bike and the problem is Honda.” But then he realized that the interview was being recorded by an HRC PR “minder” and backed away from the statement, cut short the interview and fled the scene.

Off the record he said enough to get him fired, I suppose, but what’s off the record is off the record, at least with me.

In Turkey he is said to have told his team what he thought of the bike in no uncertain terms and implied that he didn’t want to ride it again. That was enough for a Honda executive who called Japan. A couple of suits of Repsol Honda leathers appeared briefly in Valencia with the name Ukawa on them according to unimpeachable sources. Italian journalists had, by then, printed remarks very similar to those that I had been hearing “off the record.”

Honda officials denied that there was a problem with Max, but, in fact, Ukawa would have replaced Biaggi at Valencia had not IRTA (the International Racing Teams Association) objected that an uninjured rider could not be replaced on a whim.

Biaggi rode and although Honda executives denied that they had banned Biaggi from riding Honda machines in the future, it turns out that they ordered Sito Pons, who had been working for some time on bringing Max back into his Camel team in 2006, to refuse the ride to the four time 250 World Champion.

Pons couldn’t do that without losing Camel sponsorship so he appealed to HRC to accept Max and was refused. Thus Camel, determined to stay loyal to Max (who retained personal sponsorship for Camel even in the Repsol Honda team this year), announced in Valencia, long after sundown on race-day that without Max in the package they were leaving the Pons team.

All day long we had been hearing about this and fully expected either Honda to back down and accept Camel’s millions along with a repentant Biaggi as rider, or for Camel to back down and stay with a Pons team consisting of either Checa or Barros along with the 20-year-old Casey Stoner who had been linked to Tech3 Yamaha until it became clear that the Tech3 team had no sponsorship. (Yamaha now seems to have no young riders in training for the post-Rossi period and won’t be able to sign any unless they can run a second team).

In the worst-case scenario, we reasoned, Camel would sponsor the Suzuki team and Max would be a third rider. There was also the possibility that some kind of green and yellow canary color scheme could be worked out with Kawasaki and that Max could join Shinya Nakano and Randy de Puniet on the improving kwackers.
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