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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 06-17-2008, 11:09 PM Thread Starter
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First oil change, which type of oil?

Hey guys, gonna have to do my first oil change on my '08 CBR600RR and have no idea which oil to use. I will be doing the oil change with my girlfriends father who used to be a motorcycle mechanic. Also, I know i'm supposed to change the oil filter, so where's a place online I can order that from?

Just wondering which kind and type of oil to use on the bike and where to get it (Fully synthetic or semi? I have no idea this is my first bike. Don't race the bike but I do like to open it up once in a while!) Thanks guys, appreciate the help.

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service manual calls for 10w-30 recommendation, i went down to the local bike shop and he recommended castrol 20w-50 for those really hot summer days here in sacramento, CA, i plan on changing my oil for the seaons so i thought it would be a good idea to go with what he said.

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there should be an oil chart in your manual that gives you average temps and oil weight.

to be honest though, it will all be fine. you will probably end up changing it again before the oil breaks down enough to do any harm anyway. most people do.

why dont you read the 50 other oil threads below this one to get some insight as to what oil and filter to use

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It depends, Scorpio; how many miles are you up to? If it's still under 600 then you can go for mineral ..... If you're above say 900 miles then I'd go for synthetic.

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RShackleford - I apologize for asking yet another one of those oil questions. I've just had absolutely zero time to check stuff on the forums and figured I'd just ask real quick. My bad.

Captain - I've got around 800 miles on the bike now and will most likely be around 900 when I get the oil changed. So use some synthetic then?

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Just stick with the 10w-30 GN4 Honda oil. As for the filter, find a Pureolator dealer (most auto stores are) and buy a PL14612 filter.

3 qts is all you need to buy. don't get suckered into buying a fourth quart by the dealerships or your motorcycle friend. all you need is three. that reminds me of a quote

And the Lord spake, saying, First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
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And the Lord spake, saying, First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
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ScorpioCBR- If you want to order online contact one of the Amsoil sponsors and buy some of the MCF oil for your bike. You can get a bit of a deal on OEM filters online too at
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Scorpio, I would use synthetic myself at this stage.

But don't you have the first searvice around this time? In Australia we need to bring our bikes in at 1,000 Km (that's what .... 650 miles?) - they give it a full once over (if you're lucky) and it includes an oil and filter change.

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I'm with knightslugger on using GN4 Honda oil but I use 10w-40 in my bikes.

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I usually use 20-50 royal purple. But I was wondering if anyone ever had trouble getting the filter off? I try using a tool but everytime inhave to stab it with a screwdriver hah. Or muscle it out. Any Oem tools you guys know about for this problem?
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Honda synthetic 10w30 or
kawasaki synthetic 10w30
same oil.

been using it forever.

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I personally like Shell Rotella T6. Used it in my Ninja and now CBR and neve a problem. And its cheaper then GN4, too. Good stuff IMO

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How many quarts do you guys use?
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How many quarts do you guys use?
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I personally like Shell Rotella T6. Used it in my Ninja and now CBR and neve a problem. And its cheaper then GN4, too. Good stuff IMO
I'm definitely with rkoe17 on this one. I switched to the Rotella T6 about 1000 miles ago on my CBR and I've since gotten my friends to switch over to it, too. Shifts are significantly smoother than the Motul 300V it had before (2000 miles) and way cheaper.

It took me about 3 weeks to finally decide on using it. I don't care if it has a picture of tractors on the back, JASO MA and the countless oil analysis samples from people here on .net means it's good enough for my bike.

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yeah what does our bike call for, i bought an 08, downloaded the repair manual, and changed the oil using 10w-30 which the manual said. however, i come on here and everyone uses 10w-40. did i use the correct oil type cause im paranoid now...
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plenty of posts on this. you will be fine with either. the manual actually shows both as the main difference is 10w40 will allow higher temperatures. wow this post goes back to 2008 with no activity until recently.
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The best in my opinion is Amsoil MCF 10w-40. Coming in very close in second place is Rotella T6 5w-40. The Rotella is SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive, easier to find, and works in about anything with pistons. Great stuff and is sold in every Wal-Mart in the country. If you want just as good for even less money the Rotella T 15w-40 is good stuff too, not a synthetic but if you change it every 5,000 miles or so you'll be just fine.
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I've been using amsoil's motorcycle oil. 10-40w and never had a problem. Which every oil you choose remember to use MOTORCYCLE oil not just and ole oil. 10-40w motorcycle oil is different then 10-40w car oil. I can get technical but I'll keep it basic and say just make sure you get motorcycle oil.
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That's true to an extent. There are motorcycle specific oils out there but if you look for a JASO - MA rating on the bottle it meets all the specs for a "motorcycle oil" even if there is a picture of a semi or 4WD truck on the front of the bottle. The picture of the motorcycle on the front of the bottle adds about $2 to the price of the oil inside it.

Heavy duty diesel engine oils meet CI-4 specifications and are significantly more durable than those that meet just "automotive" standards (SM, SL, etc). The CI rating is much harder to get and has a much more robust additive package.

Just check the back of the bottle.
Avoid "Energy Conserving" markings like the plague.
Look for the JASO - MA rating.
Is it a 40W oil (or what your book recommends?). The first number in the viscosity isn't that important, the second is. 5W-40 and 15W-40 will both work great in the summer. In the winter the 15w-40 will get a bit thick.

Oils that I know to be safe in a CBR600RR:
Amsoil MCF 10W-40
Mobil 1 4T 10W-40
Shell Rotella T6 5W-40
Shella Rotella 15W-40 (warm weather)
Castrol 4T 10W-40
Valvoline 4T 10W-40
Motul, Repsol, Silkolene, Honda GN4, Yamalube, Redline, etc......

Of these I have personally used Amsoil, Mobil, and Rotella and could not tell ANY difference between them.

There are a gazillion others that are fine too. Just read the bottle, do your research and ride.
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That's true to an extent. There are motorcycle specific oils out there but if you look for a JASO - MA rating on the bottle it meets all the specs for a "motorcycle oil" even if there is a picture of a semi or 4WD truck on the front of the bottle. The picture of the motorcycle on the front of the bottle adds about $2 to the price of the oil inside it.

Heavy duty diesel engine oils meet CI-4 specifications and are significantly more durable than those that meet just "automotive" standards (SM, SL, etc). The CI rating is much harder to get and has a much more robust additive package.

Just check the back of the bottle.
Avoid "Energy Conserving" markings like the plague.
Look for the JASO - MA rating.
Is it a 40W oil (or what your book recommends?). The first number in the viscosity isn't that important, the second is. 5W-40 and 15W-40 will both work great in the summer. In the winter the 15w-40 will get a bit thick.

Oils that I know to be safe in a CBR600RR:
Amsoil MCF 10W-40
Mobil 1 4T 10W-40
Shell Rotella T6 5W-40
Shella Rotella 15W-40 (warm weather)
Castrol 4T 10W-40
Valvoline 4T 10W-40
Motul, Repsol, Silkolene, Honda GN4, Yamalube, Redline, etc......

Of these I have personally used Amsoil, Mobil, and Rotella and could not tell ANY difference between them.

There are a gazillion others that are fine too. Just read the bottle, do your research and ride.
I was told the use of "motorcycle" specific oil was because our bikes use a "wet" clutch so non-motorcycle specific oil will break down faster and not allow the clutch to work properly. I was only told this from a few friends of mine and a mechanic at the honda dealer whom is also a friend and doesn't feed me all the BS dealer stuff. I have no proof of this so you may be right. I'll stick with the motorcycle specific oil from amsoil but you may do as you please.

As for the part where you say the first number in (10w-30) doesn't matter, you are dead wrong. It doesn't matter that much when you compare 5w-30 to 10w-30 but it's still relevant. It effects the viscosity of the oil at different temps. I'm not 100% sure because I don't have the owners manual in front of me at the moment but 10w-40 has a huge range temperature wise. I ride in 50 up to 100+ degree weather and the weight covered that range. That's all I use. I'm a maintenance fanatic so if you really wanna protect your investment pick and oil and stick with it because every manufacture uses different detergents. When you change your oil we all know there's alil left over so when you constantly switch oils the different brands ingredients will create sludge. There is a more technological reason of explaining this but I hope you get the idea. If you stick with one brand of oil your engine will stay much cleaner. The effects of using different brands is very minimal but to me it matters.
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Thank you for the information! First oil change here! This is some useful stuff!

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Just picked up a gallon of Rotella T6 from autozone. $6 off in store and a $5 mail in rebate.

Walmart still seems to carry it at the cheapest price overall, though.

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I called around a few shops today including the Honda dealership in my area and they all said they used the 'Motul 10w-40 Technosynthese' oil. It's a really good quality oil in my opinion and apparently that of many professionals. The full synthetic is a little overkill so you can stick to the semi-synthetic. It runs for about $15.00 Canadian which is a little pricey but well worth it on the quality side. You will need about three liters.
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