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Does your 600rr "consume" oil?

Purchased my bike brand new, did a decent break-in, and switched to Rotella T6 oil at the 600-mile service interval.

In a 2000-mile interval, the bike will consume an average of 4-6oz (120-170ml).

I just top it off and go; but I'm curious how much oil (if any) your bikes consume during a 2000-3000 mile interval?
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I use T6 also, and have had 600RR's with 50,000 miles on them. They used ZERO oil, never had to top them off. My '08 1000RR used a quart in 700 miles.
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I use T6 also, and have had 600RR's with 50,000 miles on them. They used ZERO oil, never had to top them off. My '08 1000RR used a quart in 700 miles.
I've heard that from quite a few 1000RR owners. My oil consumption isn't nearly that bad, but it still bugs me.

The owner's manual and service manual casually mention oil consumption, like it's normal for the engine to burn oil.
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I've had three 600RR's, none of them used oil.
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I have not come across this issue on my 600 either, oil level seems to always be in the same place in the little glass window.



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09, "dyno style " break in, and no oil consumed between oil changes (3-4k miles/change).
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^^^ No consumption between changes...
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If it's within reason less than 250ml in between change then there's nothing to worry about.

Mine probably need about 100-200ml top up every 6000km but also could be because it spent 75% of the time above 10k rpm
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My 2012 doesn't consume any thank goodness.

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What kind of break-in did you do? I've read that the beat-the-shtuff out of it method is best.
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28k miles on mine, ride it like I stole it.

Uses zero oil and comes out a dark gold after 3-4k change.
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'03 model, 40,000km. Uses no oil except for when the oil change is done.

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05 and a 08, both never used a drop. The 2010 CBR1000RR used maybe four or five ounces in between, kinda weird after I did the block offs it never used a drop and the air filter case was spotless.
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My 30000km 08 did not use a single drop. My mates 08 100000km does consume about half a litre per 5000km. My 08 CBR1K was far worst consuming 1litre per 5000km of track riding.
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^I'm calling B.S. on everyone who says their bikes don't use oil, j/k. I agree that it doesn't/shouldn't burn oil.


Make sure you're leaving your bike straight up and the oil level should be in between the upper/lower lines. When the bike is running it'll cycle the oil so it will disappear since it's running through the engine. Then once you turn it off, it should go back to the middle of the sight glass.


X - for the 08-1000rr, wasn't there a recall because of this?
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My 08 CBR1K was far worst consuming 1litre per 5000km of track riding.
My '08 would use a quart by lunchtime at the track. But it was a fantastic bike otherwise.
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Where did.the oil.go?



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Where did.the oil.go?
for the 08 cbr1k apparently a problem with the piston rings.
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X - for the 08-1000rr, wasn't there a recall because of this?
No recall in Singapore. But i read dealers in the states take it back under warranty.

The official recall is for the crankshaft primary gear if im not wrong for 08-10 CBR1K with an additional warranty extension on that problem.

Either way it def isnt as problem free as the CBR600. My friend's 100,000km 08 cbr600 hasnt even had its engine open for valve/timing chain checks he just changes the oil every now and then. He uses it for commuting.
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What kind of break-in did you do? I've read that the beat-the-shtuff out of it method is best.
I did a moderate break in. I didn't baby her, but I also didn't beat on her right out of the gate. I've used the same break in method on other engines that I've built, including two turbocharged B-series Honda engines. Never had an issue with oil consumption using this method.
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My '08 would use a quart by lunchtime at the track. But it was a fantastic bike otherwise.
Yup, the 2010 onwards were almost problem free.
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Used semi synth oils and OEM filter and had to top up around 200ml every 8K or so. However, with current setup of full synth and KnN filter it was drinking oil 200ml every ~3000km! Next service I am going to revert back to OEM filter and use Honda HP4 semi synth oil to see if the newly found problem repeats.

I ride hard - above 9K most times and 12K is where the needle like to sit.
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Since I've started doing track days and riding the bike a lot harder than before, I noticed this morning (following 4 recent track days) my oil level looked empty using the visual inspection window. Had to put around 750ml in of semi synthetic 10w40 (have ordered 10w30 to do a filter change with).

It's circa 2700 miles since the last oil and filter change so I was slightly concerned to see the lack of oil and will monitor it very closely moving forwards.
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My 2007 600RR uses zero oil. I was kind of surprised by that.

Also, the factory service manual recommends changing the oil/filter every 8000 miles. I do it more often than that, but I would imagine that even after 8k miles it wouldn't use much.

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Bumping this just because I have a brand new 2015 (purchased in July), and pretty much the same scenario as the OP. Didn't beat on it but didn't strictly adhere to the low-RPMs for first 100 miles either. Did the 600-mile change (OEM filter, Rotella T6), it's right under 3K miles now so I'll be doing another oil change soon (OEM filter, Rotella T6) but I noticed this weekend I needed to add some oil.
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didn't strictly adhere to the low-RPMs for first 100 miles either.
You mean minimum 600 miles, more like 1000 miles right? Otherwise thats a great way to induce ring flutter, which will do wonders for f'ing up the ring seating process.
I'm not sure why theres so much debate about break in. You give it lots of gas at low rpm. That creates cylinder pressure and forces rings to seat. Low rpm keeps them from fluttering before they've seated. Really simple.

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Sorry, it was the first 300 miles. I re-checked the OM since that's what I followed. The dealer recommended keeping it under 6k RPMs. I wasn't pegging the rev-limiter, but I would venture over the 6k RPM from time to time but would barely break 7k if I did.

Changed the oil/filter at 600 miles. Didn't really start hard accelerations until well past 600 miles but I'd probably say before 1000 miles.

Not really sure if your "so much debate..." comment is directed at me since I'm not debating anything. I've read all the different arguments for which break-in method and why but I'm not looking to debate any particular method vs. another. The OM is relatively vague on break-in especially with regard to keeping it under a certain engine speed. I will say I definitely adhered to the documented recommendations though.
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My '06 uses no oil. Mind you, we had Amsoil 10/40 synthetic in it. Put a clutch in it the other day and decided to use Castrol 10/40 Dino oil. The bike started using oil. All in all I added a litre to it....

Went back to Amsoil 10/40 Synthetic and it uses almost nothing. Everything is back to normal.

I've known for years that with bikes you must run 100% synthetic. I only put the Dino oil in it to facilitate clutch break-in but it was clearly a mistake.

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My 05 600RR engine i bought with 6000 miles from a member here which i tweaked the top end a bit doesn't consume oil, i use Liqui Moly 10W30 & change oil every 500kms (track/race). Runs pretty strong for a used engine.


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Sorry, it was the first 300 miles. I re-checked the OM since that's what I followed. The dealer recommended keeping it under 6k RPMs. I wasn't pegging the rev-limiter, but I would venture over the 6k RPM from time to time but would barely break 7k if I did.
That's fine and wouldn't hurt anything. It seemed like you were implying much larger rpm's.

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