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perplexed 03-24-2014 08:58 PM

how to do inverted LCD gauges 07-13
 
after seeing a pic in wibbly's build thread on this, i just had to do it. so i started searching on how to do it. all the threads i found made it sound simple to do. just take the current film off of your LCD, then apply your new polarized film in the correct orientation. well it is easy but i couldn't find any actual pics of what to do, or how to do it, how far to tear into the gauges. i was a little reluctant to go much farther cause i didn't see the film already installed, or that the polarized film i got was the wrong kind. so i contacted wibbly, crying like a little boy who lost his puppy, asking him what else i need to do. he got back with me on what i needed to do. with credit to wibbly, i am making this 'how to' for any one else that is interested on doing this.

your stock gauges probably look like this. maybe you want a little different look when your at a bike night to help set you apart from the heard? we will be changing that by re-orientating the polarized film on the LCD's.

dunno whos pic this is, i just found it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...psb832d9b9.jpg


stuff you will need:

stock gauges
heat gun
screwdriver
pliers/dikes
towel or shop rags
chemical cleaning agent(i used gas)
elbow grease
polarized film - i got mine on ebay. mine was non-adhesive. cost me $15 for two 8.5x11 sheets. you will only need about a quarter of one sheet. i have a lot of extra. so get with a couple people and you can do this mod for less than $5.

you will start with removing you gauge cluster from the bike. i will not go into how to do that. there are other threads for that. flip the cluster over. there will be like 10 screws(i didn't count) holding the case halves together. remove those, then gently split open the case and extract the guage/pc board setup. there are two LCD's that will be coming out, the speedometer side and the fuel gauge side. it will look like this

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps74d121d4.jpg

next flip it over, i removed the four screws that hold the tachometer on to the PCB. i could not remove the needle, and didn't want to unsolder the motor from the board. but removing the screws will help as it gives a little slop when removing the LCD's. the pic shows the 4 screws, and the metal tabs that retain the LCD's to the board. they each have four tabs. you can do both of them at once, or just one LCD at a time like i did. just take your pliers and bend them straight. this will allow the cover to be free. it will also loosen the white holder that the LCD sit on.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...psea07ae6d.jpg

just bend the tabs straight

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps1e03f623.jpg

i started with the speedometer first. it was a little difficult to snake it out. the lack of slop from the tach was causing the LCD holder to be in a bind and not enough room to be removed. i didn't just wanna put more pressure on the tach, so i ended up taking a pair of dikes, and nibbling at the white standoff that was closest to the tach. what this will do is allow the white part to be free of the PCB, and give enough room to then slide out and away from the board. this will not effect the mounting when reinstalling cause there is still enough material left that will stick through the board and align with the hole.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...psd26f060e.jpg


next the black frame and LCD will come off of the white plastic easily. there is a long piece of rubber that runs along the LCD. this is what contacts the board to the glass. don't loose this. it just pulls away from the black frame. place it aside. this is what you will have:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps48531bce.jpg

here you can see the stock film on the glass. it is just like window tint basically.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps33f4f035.jpg

now we need to remove the LCD from the black frame. it is just placed in there, no glue. you will just have to weasel it out of there. slide it out evenly so you don't break it. once removed, the original film will need to be removed. it's on there pretty good so take a heat gun to it. this will help to loosen the adhesive a little. once it gets warm it will be easier to remove and slowly start to peel away.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps6b2c0707.jpg

when you have removed the old film, there will be glue adhesive stuck to the glass. this will need to be removed before applying the new film. i started with rubbing alcohol, then tried brake cleaner. either i didn't spend enough time with either one, or it just didn't work, then i tried gas. grabbed me an old rag, found some elbow grease and went to town. occasionally i would use my finger nail to scrape some off, then back to a rag with some gas on it. here you can see it is starting to get better.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...psce1c9013.jpg

here it is about half clean

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps4bd28c2b.jpg

perplexed 03-24-2014 09:00 PM

after a few minutes, this is what happens

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps9c400957.jpg

now we need to get our polarized film and figure what orientation we will need to apply it on. just place the sheet over the LCD, if it isn't 'blacked out' rotate it 90*. if it still isn't dark, flip the sheet over and repeat the process. hopefully it will look kinda like this:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...pse4bc5342.jpg

when you find the correct orientation, cut the sheet to the same size as the glass or close to it. clean the LCD the best you can of hair, lint etc... this is kinda like putting on a screen protector on a cell phone now. if you have done that, you know what your in for. once you get cleaned to your liking, peel the clear protective cover off one side of the film. place it over your LCD on one end and evenly apply it across. do your best get any air bubbles out with something like a credit card or what ever you have that is smooth and flat. if you have to, you may need to lift up the film a little and evenly press it back on again. i had to do it all over again the first time i did it. no biggie as i had a lot of film. once you get it done to your liking, peel the other protective film off of the film.

you are now ready to reinstall the glass into the black frame, dont forget the rubber piece. slide the whole thing back in between the tach and the PC board. get the white tabs is place, and the metal tabs through the slots. then take your pliers and bend the metal tabs back over like before. i went and tested it and this is what i got:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps564f23c7.jpg

now to do the fuel gauge side. it is the methods as before, but this time i didn't have to cut the white tabs down any. it was able to be slid down and out no problem.

here started to peel the old film off

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...psc4eba441.jpg

half cleaned

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps82c2783d.jpg

fully cleaned

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps23ed3703.jpg

find the correct orientation again

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...psbdc0433f.jpg

put it all back together, then it should look like this with the LCD's blacked out hopefully

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...psbde8d731.jpg

i haven't gone back out to test it today, as it is raining and 30* here today. so if it all goes as planned, your gauge cluster should look like this

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...ps56a64673.jpg

overall, this was an easy mod to do. once i got some advice from wibbly it was very easy. i would guess this can be done in an hour or less once the gauge cluster is removed from the bike.

hope you will find this useful in the event you want to 'black out' your gauges.

D1stylz 03-24-2014 09:11 PM

Very good. Great job. Question if a man was to have the LEDs a different color what happens? Do the numbers go that color?

muzhik 03-24-2014 09:19 PM

great job, looks great

wibbly 03-24-2014 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D1stylz (Post 6191458)
Very good. Great job. Question if a man was to have the LEDs a different color what happens? Do the numbers go that color?

yes... of course.

only thing to be careful of is to make sure you put the film on PERFECTLY square. so use a factory edge from your sheet of film to line up with the lcd. if it's not perfectly straight it won't be as black.

HartwickCBR 03-24-2014 10:37 PM

Looks good! Question... the OP appears to have orange numbers.. wibbly yours look yellowish to me. Do you have different leds or what am I missing?

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wibbly 03-24-2014 11:02 PM

I have correct white balance.

My LEDs are stock

HartwickCBR 03-24-2014 11:05 PM

No idea what correct white balance is.. Can you please elaborate? sorry..

forevertwowheels 03-24-2014 11:08 PM

Nice write up dude. Definitely going to be doing this soon.


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wibbly 03-24-2014 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HartwickCBR (Post 6192242)
No idea what correct white balance is.. Can you please elaborate? sorry..

Color correction on your camera. Your eyes do it automatically, cameras don't.

Stock color is more yellow than orange

HartwickCBR 03-24-2014 11:22 PM

Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

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AF4iK 03-25-2014 12:21 AM

Very nice writeup! I would like to do this but I'm just too damn lazy at the end of the day. Maybe next winter I'll think of tackling it.

boon03 03-26-2014 12:47 AM

Love this, just wish the low indicator on the fuel didn't show up when inverted.

gioarge 03-27-2014 09:08 AM

thanks for sharing! I think that as soon as my warranty period will end, I will go for this mod.

mran556 03-27-2014 02:20 PM

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Very Cool.. that looks awesome man

lysol 03-27-2014 04:20 PM


perplexed 03-28-2014 03:37 AM

*cough*bullsht*cough*. Oh great picture mav. Left, right, up or down, front or back. This case it is front to back Imo

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Riviera 04-09-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perplexed (Post 6191402)

Damn! Great work!
This looks awesome!

I'm gonna do this soon.

MesoCyclone RR 04-16-2014 05:57 PM

I need to do this.


Does anyone have a write up on how to pull the gauge clsuter out?

D1stylz 04-16-2014 06:04 PM

https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=97411

It's easy just be super careful taking out and putting in head lights the tabs break easy.

MesoCyclone RR 04-16-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D1stylz (Post 6319697)
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=97411

It's easy just be super careful taking out and putting in head lights the tabs break easy.

Crap this will be a PITA for me as I hae GSX-R mirrors... They are all wired up...


I will have to look at the wiring and see if I can do this mod

myfirstcbr 04-30-2014 11:57 AM

This looks so much better. Anyone done this that can comment on if it reduces the ability to read the gauges during the day? Looks sic at night. Yes, I can see pic taken during the day, but is in shade and not direct sunlight. If it's still as bright in sunlight as it is in the pic, I'm def doing this.

Bridge_Jumper 04-30-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myfirstcbr (Post 6398345)
This looks so much better. Anyone done this that can comment on if it reduces the ability to read the gauges during the day? Looks sic at night.

I can read mine just fine during the day and I even changed the led's to red
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psef2cd804.jpg

perplexed 04-30-2014 01:57 PM

After riding a few days with this, at night there is no issue with seeing the gauges. During the day, if you have the sun to your back and it has a direct path to the gauges it is great. When the sun is high enough, or there is any kind of shadow from the windscreen, it makes it more difficult to see. Not too bad, but enough that you have to spend an extra second to distinguish between the two different 'blacks' that are showing up. Would I want to go back to stock style? No, its worth it at night for less of a 'glow' to me. Next chance I get, I'll try to post pics of it in the day with a shadow.

MesoCyclone RR 05-02-2014 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridge_Jumper (Post 6398385)
I can read mine just fine during the day and I even changed the led's to red
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psef2cd804.jpg

Will you come to my place in IL and do this for me?? I'll pay you.. And I am being serious too!!

That set up is AMAZING!!!!!

Bridge_Jumper 05-02-2014 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MesoCyclone RR (Post 6413337)
Will you come to my place in IL and do this for me?? I'll pay you.. And I am being serious too!!

That set up is AMAZING!!!!!

haha if you get the LED's and polarizing film I'll let you know the next time I come down to Chicago and we might be able to work something out

blkcavy98 05-02-2014 11:47 PM

If your slowly heading north than you might as well keep going north to Canada for me. Lol

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MesoCyclone RR 05-02-2014 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridge_Jumper (Post 6413401)
haha if you get the LED's and polarizing film I'll let you know the next time I come down to Chicago and we might be able to work something out

You tell me what I need to order and done!!

I am about 15 - 20 mins West of downtown Chicago.. Not to far at all...


When would you be done here?

Bridge_Jumper 05-02-2014 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MesoCyclone RR (Post 6413465)
You tell me what I need to order and done!!

I am about 15 - 20 mins West of downtown Chicago.. Not to far at all...


When would you be done here?

I have friends who live in Schaumburg, give me a few minutes and I'll find/post the how to thread that tells you what you need

MesoCyclone RR 05-02-2014 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridge_Jumper (Post 6413513)
I have friends who live in Schaumburg, give me a few minutes and I'll find/post the how to thread that tells you what you need

Yeah Schaumburg is about 25 mins North of me. I'm not far at all..


I would greatly appreciate your help!!!!


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