[KrazyItch]

I hear ya bro, and what you say brings a tear to my eye, it is beautiful,


but what if the life I save is that abusive husband, who almost died, YaYYYYYYYYYY, he didn't die from his wife hitting him witht he car, so now he has my liver to go home and take her out, abuse his daughter for another 20 years, have some kids with her, and abuse those,


ahhhhhhhh the gift of life,

it may sound negative, but its reality,

I see a lot of people live in that rosy world I only get to dream of,

what if the donor was that kidnapper garrido, who took that girl when she was 11, to use and abuse her for 18 years,

he could have easily been on the list, got his kidney and been back to be the monster in a week,

come on people, lets be real, it can go either way,

lets not be delusional that all your organs are going to angels, and to help humanity,

oooo my liver went to the kid who was going to invent the cure for aids,

ooo my eyes went to little martha, who will paint a masterpiece,


ooooo my hands went to the pervert so he could touch all the little children of the world,

red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight,

jesus loves the little children of the world

Haha, i wasnt trying to get all sentimental. Nor was i saying my organs one day will change the world. I get where you coming from, the worlds a shity place no ones denying that.

 

[SuuScbr]

Haha, i wasnt trying to get all sentimental. Nor was i saying my organs one day will change the world. I get where you coming from, the worlds a shity place no ones denying that.

I hear ya, yeah from the posts it seems that organs donations will only do good,


I am still in the air on it, if only I could save em to sell over the long haul, hahaha

 

[BDT]

It could certainly go to someone that does terrible things or great things, you never know. But the fact is, there are far more good people than bad people in the world so the odds are you're helping people, not harming them. C'mon man, be optimistic.

 

[ajaygraci]

dude ur a fcking selfish *******. they ARE NOT gunna kill you or let you die to take your organs dummy, dont be PARANOID. SAVE LIVES and donate your organs. my uncle is in need of a kidney right now..hes a kind man with the heart of a saint.

dont wanna donate your dead body parts to help people like him? u know what theyll do to ur dead body afterwards? send u off and take some parts without consent mr.paranoid, then sell em and make profit on black market.. that getcha thinking?
you seem like the kind to play into conspiracy theories

haha ull take an organ but wont give one..but when u do need one they will secretly put someone who is an organ donor on the list before you, if you really do believe in these corrupt doctors, why wouldnt they do that?

 

[tary preisser]

15 +yrs as pink dot......

Tdub said it all.

stingy people suck!

Soichiro has made a brilliant suggestion - "give and recieve" seems like a good policy!

 

[tamadrumr88]

Check off another one for organ donor, but I understand and agree with both sides of the argument (as well as some of the far-out views expressed in this thread :crackup...

I see it no differently than this scenario: If a restaurant throws away food at the end of the day, it's a complete waste. If the restaurant instead donates the food to a local food bank, they're helping feed others and at least the food doesn't end up in a landfill somewhere

When you look at harvesting organs like parting out a car/bike that's been in an accident, of course the idea of being/becoming an organ donor isn't attractive. If someone else has a better use for my organs after I've expired, I don't see any harm in putting them towards a better cause

I feel bad for the guy who gets my liver though, he'll be drunker than a S.O.B. after the transplant :drunk: (never while driving/riding though, that I have a big problem with!)

 

[BossLady]

In Texas they canned the sticker and actually stamp it on your license ... there's no changing your mind and peeling the sticker off lol
I'm a donor

 

[Eslocklier]

I'm a donor. Even though I've heard the sometimes out-there rumors addressed on this board regarding substandard care to get to the organs. I just don't believe it, and am happy to leave my used/semi abused parts behind to a worthy caretaker if there should be anything left of me when I expire.

 

[CollapsedNut]

After Im gone they can salvage what they can. Probably wont want most of them though, drinker/smoker/past drug abuser haha

 

[SuuScbr]

dude ur a fcking selfish *******. they ARE NOT gunna kill you or let you die to take your organs dummy, dont be PARANOID. SAVE LIVES and donate your organs. my uncle is in need of a kidney right now..hes a kind man with the heart of a saint.

dont wanna donate your dead body parts to help people like him? u know what theyll do to ur dead body afterwards? send u off and take some parts without consent mr.paranoid, then sell em and make profit on black market.. that getcha thinking?
you seem like the kind to play into conspiracy theories

haha ull take an organ but wont give one..but when u do need one they will secretly put someone who is an organ donor on the list before you, if you really do believe in these corrupt doctors, why wouldnt they do that?

conspiracy facts



NWO

 

[ajaygraci]

ya sorry bout flipping out on u man, didnt mean it. have a midterm every day of the fckin week

 

[SuuScbr]

ya sorry bout flipping out on u man, didnt mean it. have a midterm every day of the fckin week

dude please dont trip, not a prob, this is a sensitive subject, to some,


good luck on your mid term, those can be a *****


hope those go well, take a ride after if you can, clear your head, what are you studying maybe I can help,



safe riding out there everyone, we may disagree on what to do with our bodies once we depart,

but I am glad we can discuss it, even with the name calling and negativity, at least we can discuss it,


Good luck to everyone, safe riding, MAY THEY SEE US!!!!



seems there will be a lot of organs for the future, good to know, perhaps my decision will change, with time,


take care of those organs, little johnny is counting on a good one,


:cruising:

 

[mastrobike]

I say donate. If i can help someone when i'm gone thats a good thing

 

[Guest]

SuuScbr, here's a question for you. Say it was your kid who needed a transplant and you were a match. Would you donate an organ?

 

[SuuScbr]

SuuScbr, here's a question for you. Say it was your kid who needed a transplant and you were a match. Would you donate an organ?

of course bro, check the previous posts,

the organs for the the fam and friends first,

and if I raised him right, he should never become a monster, but then again fate is fate,



I am all for giving of myself, just fear that come the choice to save me or to part me out,

the powers that be will part me out, and use my donor registration card to do it,


its a fear based in fact, it has happened,


I would rather leave that decisions to my family, so they can be given the choice to decide,

the law is, you say your a donor, no one can overturn that, or is even asked,

you just donate, they wait the alotted time, hopefully, run the tests, hopefully,

then start the disassemble,


NO DISASSEMBLE JOHNNY 5



NO DISASSEMBLE!!!


Dude if one of my friends needed a kidney, its his, easy as that,

but to sign a government form that says, can we take it if we determine you are dead,

NO THANK YOU,


my wife has strict orders, check my body, stab me a few times, if nothing,

sell me to the highest bidder, and by yourself a frock

 

[Sun-Zoom-Spark]

If I'm dead then they can take what they can and use it to help someone else. I don't mind. I'd rather be put to good use then be left as worm food or be barbecued!

 

[tab112302]

its a fear based in fact, it has happened,

Where is your proof?

 

[jrzyboy908]

don't believe the myth

Browsing through this thread, it's not suprising to run into the stereotypical paranoia that is associated with organ donation. I am a Registered Nurse by profession, and I have seen my fair share of death and end of life related care decisions. Please allow me to shed some light that will hopefully allay your fears, and possibly lead you to reconsider your organ donar status.

1. Just because you are identified as an organ donor, this DOES NOT mean in any way, shape, or form that you will not have everything that is humanly possible done to save your life in the event of an accident. Unless you have a living will that says what you want done medically in the event that you cannot make your own decisions, healthcare personnel are obligated by law to execute ANY AND ALL life sustaining and prolonging measures at their disposal. The issue of the patient being an organ donor is not even questioned. Most of my patients are older adults and ederly people (I work on the Cardiac unit), and there are even some organ donors among them. You would think that if some government funded organization was harvesting organs that would be the first place they'd look since these people are at the end of their life...far from it. You would all probably **** yourself if you knew how much money and effort is spent keeping people alive by hospitals, insurance companies, and the government. People aren't receiving any "less" care just because they have a poor prognosis and their organs can potentially be utilized.

2. In New Jersey, when someone is potentially at the end of life (such as life support with poor prognosis, brain death, etc.) healthcare professionals must notify the state. The state then gathers information on the patient to see if they would be a candidate for organ harvesting. THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT CAN EXCLUDE SOMEONE FROM BEING AN ORGRAN DONOR. Besides the obvious ones (HIV, Hepatitis, etc.), if you have been declared brain dead for a certain amount of time, your vital organs cannot be used as donor organs. Also, after you are legally declared dead, your vital organs must be harvested within 2 hours to even be considered viable for transplant. Even people with HIV or hepatitis can still be organ donors to patients who have the same disease.

3. Even if you do not elect to be an organ donor, in the event of your near death or actual death, the state will ask your healthcare proxy (if you have one) or next of kin for consent regarding the possibility of donating your organs. Again, ALL OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED RULES STILL APPLY. Even if your family agrees to have your organs donated, you must still meet all of the criteria to be eligible.

4. In the event that you die and your family requests a medical examiner to review the cause of death via an autopsy, your organs cannot be harvested.

Let me just say that I have seen people of all ages die in the hospital, and never once have I been in a situation where every single intervention possible wasn't done to save a person's life. The myth that organ donors aren't cared for the same as others in regards to end of life decisions in completely unfounded, baseless, and factless. I think most of the fear can be attributed to pop culture/film, and horror stories people have heard of in regards to third world countries (and who wants those organs anyway?). Being an organ donor gives you the opportunity to leave behind a legacy that results in saving a life...think about that. That person could be someone's son, daughter, father, mother, husband, or wife.

Please feel free to PM me with any questions, comments, or concerns.

 

[LukeT57]

Happy to be an organ donor. I'll give back everything I can to the world that has given me so much.

 

[SuuScbr]

The rumor about organ-hungry doctors prematurely offing potential donors gained an unfortunate shot in the arm from a 2006 case in San Luis Obispo, California.

Ruben Navarro, a 25-year-old man who suffered from the neurological disorder adrenoleukodystrophy as a child (by his early 20s his mental and physical condition had deteriorated to a point where he was placed in an assisted-care facility), was admitted lifeless and unresponsive to the Sierra Vista Regional Medical Center on 29 January 2006. His organs were subsequently retrieved for transplant five days later. (Those transplants, by the way, never took place because Navarro survived for more than seven hours after he was removed from life support and was given certain drugs, so his organs had deteriorated too much to be usable.)

Prosecutors have charged Dr. Hootan C. Roozrokh, the surgeon who removed Navarro's organs, with felony counts of dependent adult abuse, mingling a harmful substance (Betadine) and prescribing a controlled substance (morphine and Ativan) without medical purpose. It is their assertion that rather than allow Navarro to die naturally, the doctor knowingly hastened the process by introducing into him excessive amounts of narcotic painkillers and sedatives for the express purpose of killing him. The doctor is also said to have administered the antiseptic Betadine through a feeding tube into Navarro's stomach while Navarro was still viable, a sterilization procedure typically done after a donor is dead (since it's likely to kill the living).

Roozrokh's attorney says Navarro "was going to die shortly, whether in minutes or in hours" and said of the excessive painkillers used that "In that situation, you err on the side of ensuring that he's pain-free." Over-medicating the dying with morphine is not at all a new practice; terminal patients are sometimes given unusually high or overly-frequent doses of the drug in an effort (generally unstated but also generally understood by both medical staff and family members in attendance) to help the dying slip through death's door a bit more quickly and thus terminate sufferers' torments sooner. Such practice is generally roundly denied when spoken of openly, however.

Dr. Roozrokh continues to practice, pending the verdict in his case.

David Fleming, the executive director of Donate Life America, a nonprofit group that promotes donations, said this isolated case has "given some support to the myths and misperceptions we spend an inordinate amount of time telling people won't happen."


one case of many, not saying it happens everyday, but it can happen, so it is not unfounded, baseless, and factless


but again, to each his own, its your body, if compelled share it,